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Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:51 pm .... to see someone in an argument, about anything (brexit, collusion, al gores meter, whateverthefuck) have their opinion changed or admit they were wrong.

everyone on the internet these days seems to love to argue, but no one's opinion ever seems to be changed. everyone isn't always right.

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:51 pm .... to see someone in an argument, about anything (brexit, collusion, al gores meter, whateverthefuck) have their opinion changed or admit they were wrong.

everyone on the internet these days seems to love to argue, but no one's opinion ever seems to be changed. everyone isn't always right.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:19 pm Uncannily resembles CQ

Gunzen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:12 pm I admitted being wrong numerous times. Including thinking Comey would recommend indictment for Hillary.

I was wrong about Hillary getting away with Benghazi and the emails too. I though she skated. I was pissed. However, turned out to cost her the election and now, I think they are gonna go after her now that Trump doesn’t have the collusion cloud over him.

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:23 pm i was certainly wrong about the weapons of mass destruction in iraq. i believed everything that Colin Powell laid out to the UN when making his case to invade. It was embarrassing how bad our intelligence was.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:34 pm Anyway I'll always admit when I'm wrong. I was drunk one Sunday afternoon and mentioned Gore's electricity bill. My claim of $40,000 a month was of course preposterous. It was $4,000. Really not that bad considering the size of his mansion. Everybody just raised hell after his "carbon footprint" campaign. So, I'll always see the truth when shown the evidence. I was wrong.

FreakShowFanatic wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:36 pm

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:23 pm i was certainly wrong about the weapons of mass destruction in iraq. i believed everything that Colin Powell laid out to the UN when making his case to invade. It was embarrassing how bad our intelligence was.

Me too. I got so pissed off at the Bush regime that I switched from being a republican to a democrat after that. What a bucket of lies. At the time I worked for a EU based pharma country and the whole time they told me that it was a bunch of bullshit. The entire rest of the world knew except the US.

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:23 pm

Gunzen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:12 pm I admitted being wrong numerous times. Including thinking Comey would recommend indictment for Hillary.

I was wrong about Hillary getting away with Benghazi and the emails too. I though she skated. I was pissed. However, turned out to cost her the election and now, I think they are gonna go after her now that Trump doesn’t have the collusion cloud over him.

i was certainly wrong about the weapons of mass destruction in iraq. i believed everything that Colin Powell laid out to the UN when making his case to invade. It was embarrassing how bad our intelligence was.

i have never really cared about hillary's emails. the benghazi thing, i guess i just don't really understand it.

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:45 pm I think Powell was naive to the situation, they needed his political capital and trustworthiness. Bush the lesser lied us into war just like his Daddy did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيرة الصباح‎) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign, which was run by the American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1]

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:45 pm I think Powell was naive to the situation, they needed his political capital and trustworthiness. Bush the lesser lied us into war just like his Daddy did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيرة الصباح‎) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign, which was run by the American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1]

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:06 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:45 pm I think Powell was naive to the situation, they needed his political capital and trustworthiness. Bush the lesser lied us into war just like his Daddy did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيرة الصباح‎) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign, which was run by the American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1]

well, whatever the motivations by whoever was involved, they managed to kick one hell of an ant bed.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:20 pm

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:06 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:45 pm I think Powell was naive to the situation, they needed his political capital and trustworthiness. Bush the lesser lied us into war just like his Daddy did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيرة الصباح‎) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign, which was run by the American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1]

well, whatever the motivations by whoever was involved, they managed to kick one hell of an ant bed.

No shit. Had 230 years of British experience in India regarding Sunni/ Shia Muslim problems regarding governance to study and these idiots were blind as bats. "Oh, everybody will welcome us as liberators". Most naive attitude in decades.

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:09 am

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:20 pm

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:06 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:45 pm I think Powell was naive to the situation, they needed his political capital and trustworthiness. Bush the lesser lied us into war just like his Daddy did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيرة الصباح‎) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign, which was run by the American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1]

well, whatever the motivations by whoever was involved, they managed to kick one hell of an ant bed.

No shit. Had 230 years of British experience in India regarding Sunni/ Shia Muslim problems regarding governance to study and these idiots were blind as bats. "Oh, everybody will welcome us as liberators". Most naive attitude in decades.

I think the naivety here is thinking any US 'conflict' has been conducted without a full idea of the consequences by top brass.

Don't believe the hype, W and crew knew exactly what the score would be, who would benefit, and that taking down Saddam would kick a hornets nest that will allow us to sell more weapons, maintain a solid presence in the Middle East, and (in the case of Afghanistan) keep the poppies flowing for years to come.

Remember: Terrorism is good for Big Business and the MIC; and isis/al qaida are everywhere we want to be.

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:09 am

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:20 pm

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:06 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:45 pm I think Powell was naive to the situation, they needed his political capital and trustworthiness. Bush the lesser lied us into war just like his Daddy did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيرة الصباح‎) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign, which was run by the American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1]

well, whatever the motivations by whoever was involved, they managed to kick one hell of an ant bed.

No shit. Had 230 years of British experience in India regarding Sunni/ Shia Muslim problems regarding governance to study and these idiots were blind as bats. "Oh, everybody will welcome us as liberators". Most naive attitude in decades.

I think the naivety here is thinking any US 'conflict' has been conducted without a full idea of the consequences by top brass.

Don't believe the hype, W and crew knew exactly what the score would be, who would benefit, and that taking down Saddam would kick a hornets nest that will allow us to sell more weapons, maintain a solid presence in the Middle East, and (in the case of Afghanistan) keep the poppies flowing for years to come.

Remember: Terrorism is good for Big Business and the MIC; and isis/al qaida are everywhere we want to be.

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:51 pm .... to see someone in an argument, about anything (brexit, collusion, al gores meter, whateverthefuck) have their opinion changed or admit they were wrong. everyone on the internet these days seems to love to argue, but no one's opinion ever seems to be changed. everyone isn't always right.