How long before cable dies?

[Geist]

With streaming services being the new hip thing and YouTube providing infinitely more choices and freedom, it's gotta be soon.

Adam Savage's One Day Builds is much more interesting than anything major networks have put out recently.

[Geist]

They'll evolve, not disappear.

Yeah, but you don't think their evolution week mimic something like Netflix? It'll be interesting to see with networks having the audacity to think they can mimic the Netflix model. Lookin at you Disney.

[Nero]

I cut the cord in 2011. With so much programming online don't miss it all. Live sports is the only thing missing. If there is something I really want to watch, I'll go to a bar.

[Animal]

i know this is probably a really stupid question, but how does the signal get into the house to stream from? i mean what are the other options? fiber optics? you can't do it wirelessly can you?

[Geist]

They'll evolve, not disappear.

Yeah, but you don't think their evolution week mimic something like Netflix? It'll be interesting to see with networks having the audacity to think they can mimic the Netflix model. Lookin at you Disney.

I think they'll become a la carte rather than standard packages with channels that people dont want and resemble something like FuboTv

I think you're right but I'm curious at what point cable as a Bengal subscription service disappears. And at some point I feel like it might get a little cumbersome to have 5-10 different subscriptions and if the pendulum will swing back to something like a cable streaming service.

[Geist]

i know this is probably a really stupid question, but how does the signal get into the house to stream from? i mean what are the other options? fiber optics? you can't do it wirelessly can you?

Through cable/DSL, but the question is when will it become financially impractical for ISPs to stop offering TV services, or if they don't, how will their subscription service adapt.

[Animal]

i know this is probably a really stupid question, but how does the signal get into the house to stream from? i mean what are the other options? fiber optics? you can't do it wirelessly can you?

Through cable/DSL, but the question is when will it become financially impractical for ISPs to stop offering TV services, or if they don't, how will their subscription service adapt.

so, basically (if they don't adapt) they will become the road for the signal and other streaming services will actually provide the trucks to deliver it on their road?

if that was the case, then you would only be paying the cable company for the use of their cable? i haven't seen a cable bill in forever. what does that cost?

[Geist]

i know this is probably a really stupid question, but how does the signal get into the house to stream from? i mean what are the other options? fiber optics? you can't do it wirelessly can you?

Through cable/DSL, but the question is when will it become financially impractical for ISPs to stop offering TV services, or if they don't, how will their subscription service adapt.

so, basically (if they don't adapt) they will become the road for the signal and other streaming services will actually provide the trucks to deliver it on their road?

if that was the case, then you would only be paying the cable company for the use of their cable? i haven't seen a cable bill in forever. what does that cost?

Honestly no idea how much a cable TV subscription costs since ISPs like to hide numbers by bundling. But yes I believe that is the future of ISPs without dramatic overhaul, they'll solely be internet and phone providers.

[Animal]

i know this is probably a really stupid question, but how does the signal get into the house to stream from? i mean what are the other options? fiber optics? you can't do it wirelessly can you?

Through cable/DSL, but the question is when will it become financially impractical for ISPs to stop offering TV services, or if they don't, how will their subscription service adapt.

so, basically (if they don't adapt) they will become the road for the signal and other streaming services will actually provide the trucks to deliver it on their road?

if that was the case, then you would only be paying the cable company for the use of their cable? i haven't seen a cable bill in forever. what does that cost?

Honestly no idea how much a cable TV subscription costs since ISPs like to hide numbers by bundling. But yes I believe that is the future of ISPs without dramatic overhaul, they'll solely be internet and phone providers.

well, i think we can almost all agree that the land line concept is dying a quick death. so that will only leave internet for them. their business model sounds similar to Blockbuster right now.

[Geist]

i know this is probably a really stupid question, but how does the signal get into the house to stream from? i mean what are the other options? fiber optics? you can't do it wirelessly can you?

Through cable/DSL, but the question is when will it become financially impractical for ISPs to stop offering TV services, or if they don't, how will their subscription service adapt.

so, basically (if they don't adapt) they will become the road for the signal and other streaming services will actually provide the trucks to deliver it on their road?

if that was the case, then you would only be paying the cable company for the use of their cable? i haven't seen a cable bill in forever. what does that cost?

Honestly no idea how much a cable TV subscription costs since ISPs like to hide numbers by bundling. But yes I believe that is the future of ISPs without dramatic overhaul, they'll solely be internet and phone providers.

well, i think we can almost all agree that the land line concept is dying a quick death. so that will only leave internet for them. their business model sounds similar to Blockbuster right now.

Landlines are dying for residential use but I think will still be around for awhile because of business uses. Spectrum is aggressively branching out to the world of cell services to pick up that slack.

[WestTexasCrude]

I find it very satisfying that when Netflix announced years ago their plans to move from mail-out DVD business to streaming service, they were laughed at by the "experts" in the entertainment business. Now, they are making 4 times the original content each year as the studios. With all the audience hassles, costs (tickets, food), etc, I would not be surprised to see your local movie theater go the way of Blockbuster down the line.

[kwebber]

I cut the cord in 2011. With so much programming online don't miss it all. Live sports is the only thing missing. If there is something I really want to watch, I'll go to a bar.

http://firstrowsportș.eu/

All the live sports you can watch. The only thing, is make sure you have a good ad blocker. You'll have to click a few red x's, and get a pop up or 2, but once you close the pop ups, you're good to go.

[HighNDry]

I can't remember the last time I actually sat and channel surfed. Nowadays I'm either streaming through Netflix or Hulu, or watching shit online.

[Geist]

I can't remember the last time I actually sat and channel surfed. Nowadays I'm either streaming through Netflix or Hulu, or watching shit online.

Commercials have killed watching live TV. It's easily more than 50% of overall airtime. It's a cancer.

[HighNDry]

I can't remember the last time I actually sat and channel surfed. Nowadays I'm either streaming through Netflix or Hulu, or watching shit online.

Commercials have killed watching live TV. It's easily more than 50% of overall airtime. It's a cancer.

They even have to slip commercials that you can't fast forward into on demand shit now. Such bullshit.

[Nero]

I cut the cord in 2011. With so much programming online don't miss it all. Live sports is the only thing missing. If there is something I really want to watch, I'll go to a bar.

http://firstrowsportș.eu/

All the live sports you can watch. The only thing, is make sure you have a good ad blocker. You'll have to click a few red x's, and get a pop up or 2, but once you close the pop ups, you're good to go.

I've been there a few times. For some reason my flash player was always out of date. I'm glad they let me know.

[Nero]

i know this is probably a really stupid question, but how does the signal get into the house to stream from? i mean what are the other options? fiber optics? you can't do it wirelessly can you?

I have ATT gigabit fiber. No other services. $89 a month is a little steep, but I get no slow downs regardless of what anyone else is doing.

[FreakShowFanatic]

I can't remember the last time I actually sat and channel surfed. Nowadays I'm either streaming through Netflix or Hulu, or watching shit online.

Commercials have killed watching live TV. It's easily more than 50% of overall airtime. It's a cancer.

Except with live TV & a DVR I can record everything I feel like watching in advance & watch it right afterwards & skip all the commercials.

With Hulu, you can't do that. There is no way to skip their commercials because they basically force you to watch them and disable anyway to bypass them.

I tried Hulu and cancelled it after a few weeks. The other thing is that they only play a limited amount of live TV shows (many are not available) and the interface was slow, awkward and buggy. The system would crash on average of every 30 minutes or so on my Vizio and I've heard that firestick and roku aren't much more reliable.

Don't get me wrong, streaming is theoretically the best solution, but they just haven't worked out the kinks yet so I'll continue to subscribe to live TV until they come to fruition. I'm patient.

[Geist]

I can't remember the last time I actually sat and channel surfed. Nowadays I'm either streaming through Netflix or Hulu, or watching shit online.

Commercials have killed watching live TV. It's easily more than 50% of overall airtime. It's a cancer.

Except with live TV & a DVR I can record everything I feel like watching in advance & watch it right afterwards & skip all the commercials.

With Hulu, you can't do that. There is no way to skip their commercials because they basically force you to watch them and disable anyway to bypass them.

I tried Hulu and cancelled it after a few weeks. The other thing is that they only play a limited amount of live TV shows (many are not available) and the interface was slow, awkward and buggy. The system would crash on average of every 30 minutes or so on my Vizio and I've heard that firestick and roku aren't much more reliable.

Don't get me wrong, streaming is theoretically the best solution, but they just haven't worked out the kinks yet so I'll continue to subscribe to live TV until they come to fruition. I'm patient.

I still think TiVo is gonna make a comeback. There's so much room for potential with the right partnership.

[FreakShowFanatic]

I can't remember the last time I actually sat and channel surfed. Nowadays I'm either streaming through Netflix or Hulu, or watching shit online.

Commercials have killed watching live TV. It's easily more than 50% of overall airtime. It's a cancer.

Except with live TV & a DVR I can record everything I feel like watching in advance & watch it right afterwards & skip all the commercials.

With Hulu, you can't do that. There is no way to skip their commercials because they basically force you to watch them and disable anyway to bypass them.

I tried Hulu and cancelled it after a few weeks. The other thing is that they only play a limited amount of live TV shows (many are not available) and the interface was slow, awkward and buggy. The system would crash on average of every 30 minutes or so on my Vizio and I've heard that firestick and roku aren't much more reliable.

Don't get me wrong, streaming is theoretically the best solution, but they just haven't worked out the kinks yet so I'll continue to subscribe to live TV until they come to fruition. I'm patient.

I still think TiVo is gonna make a comeback. There's so much room for potential with the right partnership.

IDK, I have Optimum and they have their own proprietary cloud DVR service where you can record up to 16 different shows simultaneously. They don't have a need to partner with a 3rd party like TiVo as far as I can see. It's all done online instead of having a local DVR box.

I agree, though. Will these monster cable TV companies go the way of Blockbuster? I think they handle enough of the infrastructure including just basic internet access for that to happen, for most of them at least.

[Geist]

I can't remember the last time I actually sat and channel surfed. Nowadays I'm either streaming through Netflix or Hulu, or watching shit online.

Commercials have killed watching live TV. It's easily more than 50% of overall airtime. It's a cancer.

Except with live TV & a DVR I can record everything I feel like watching in advance & watch it right afterwards & skip all the commercials.

With Hulu, you can't do that. There is no way to skip their commercials because they basically force you to watch them and disable anyway to bypass them.

I tried Hulu and cancelled it after a few weeks. The other thing is that they only play a limited amount of live TV shows (many are not available) and the interface was slow, awkward and buggy. The system would crash on average of every 30 minutes or so on my Vizio and I've heard that firestick and roku aren't much more reliable.

Don't get me wrong, streaming is theoretically the best solution, but they just haven't worked out the kinks yet so I'll continue to subscribe to live TV until they come to fruition. I'm patient.

I still think TiVo is gonna make a comeback. There's so much room for potential with the right partnership.

IDK, I have Optimum and they have their own proprietary cloud DVR service where you can record up to 16 different shows simultaneously. They don't have a need to partner with a 3rd party like TiVo as far as I can see. It's all done online instead of having a local DVR box.

I agree, though. Will these monster cable TV companies go the way of Blockbuster? I think they handle enough of the infrastructure including just basic internet access for that to happen, for most of them at least.

That's my point, most cable and satellite companies have their own DVR services now yet TV remains as a third party DVR option. They have the footing to start their own streaming service and provide ala carte channels on demand. All you have to do is go on the internet, find out where you actually have to go to buy a TiVo unit, have it shipped to you, and when it arrives give it to your grandpa to stack beer cans on while he cloud streams on his Roku. I think I was originally going somewhere with this but talked myself out halfway through cuz really how the fuck is TiVo still a thing?

[Nero]

How much TV do you people need to watch? Netflix and Amazon Prime have more than I could ever dream of watching.

[DandyDon]

Funny how that Net Neutrality thing would be handy for all this. My ISP chokes my DTV streaming like erotic asphyxiation, to the point that the images are jerky. But they are certain to call me every week to offer their own cable service and "guarantee" no 'delay' when watching movies or on demand.

[WestTexasCrude]

I can't remember the last time I actually sat and channel surfed. Nowadays I'm either streaming through Netflix or Hulu, or watching shit online.

Commercials have killed watching live TV. It's easily more than 50% of overall airtime. It's a cancer.

Except with live TV & a DVR I can record everything I feel like watching in advance & watch it right afterwards & skip all the commercials.

With Hulu, you can't do that. There is no way to skip their commercials because they basically force you to watch them and disable anyway to bypass them.

I tried Hulu and cancelled it after a few weeks. The other thing is that they only play a limited amount of live TV shows (many are not available) and the interface was slow, awkward and buggy. The system would crash on average of every 30 minutes or so on my Vizio and I've heard that firestick and roku aren't much more reliable.

Don't get me wrong, streaming is theoretically the best solution, but they just haven't worked out the kinks yet so I'll continue to subscribe to live TV until they come to fruition. I'm patient.

Good plan

[WestTexasCrude]

How much TV do you people need to watch? Netflix and Amazon Prime have more than I could ever dream of watching.

I think the key demographics for the 4 networks are screwed. Other than Sports, I haven't watched a night time anything for 10 years +. My TV screen is a black screen 20 hours a day. Better things elsewhere.