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So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:01 am
by Animal
I was watching this documentary last night about Jim Irwin. He was an astronaut that went to the moon. Anyway, while on the moon they had trouble with getting the steering to work on the lunar rover. So he prayed that night and the next morning it worked. He took this as a sign of God being with him. Blah blah blah.

Dial it forward and he gets back to earth and decides he needs to minister. And in doing so, he figures out that the best way to do it is to find Noah's ark. So he devotes most of the rest of his life to finding that ark. And it turns out that Mt Ararat is not an ideal place to go hunting for stuff. Really cold and rocky there.

So, I'm having a hard time listening to much without wondering how an astronaut can think that water got high enough to put a boat up there in the first place.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:19 am
by AnalHamster
Flumper wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:01 am I was watching this documentary last night about Jim Irwin. He was an astronaut that went to the moon. Anyway, while on the moon they had trouble with getting the steering to work on the lunar rover. So he prayed that night and the next morning it worked. He took this as a sign of God being with him. Blah blah blah.

Dial it forward and he gets back to earth and decides he needs to minister. And in doing so, he figures out that the best way to do it is to find Noah's ark. So he devotes most of the rest of his life to finding that ark. And it turns out that Mt Ararat is not an ideal place to go hunting for stuff. Really cold and rocky there.

So, I'm having a hard time listening to much without wondering how an astronaut can think that water got high enough to put a boat up there in the first place.
Astronauts didn't invent anything, they were mostly fighter pilots who demonstrated an ability to withstand high g and follow orders. Religious delusion creeps in even amongst top notch scientists though, it's just far less common than amongst the gen pop. If you're smart enough to be smart you are less likely to have the neurological failings that make you believe in fairies, but it is clearly possible to be afflicted with them and also be smart in more practical ways. Sad but demonstrably true.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:19 am
by CHEEZY17
Weightlifting dinosaurs.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:30 am
by Animal
So, Mount Ararat is almost 17,000 feet high. Above 12,000 feet you can get sick without oxygen. That's a problem that I have never heard talked about on the ark.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:35 am
by spudoc
CHEEZY17 wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:19 am Weightlifting dinosaurs.
Noah didn't take the dinosaurs on the ark. Because they weren't Christian like all the modern animals are. So they all drowned.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:39 am
by Stapes
Noah's Ark is about as legit as Adam and Eve.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:42 am
by spudoc
Stapes wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:39 am Noah's Ark is about as legit as Adam and Eve.
Or Jesus. Or Mohammed riding his horse to heaven. Or Mormonism.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:47 am
by CaptQuint
analhamster wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:19 am
Flumper wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:01 am I was watching this documentary last night about Jim Irwin. He was an astronaut that went to the moon. Anyway, while on the moon they had trouble with getting the steering to work on the lunar rover. So he prayed that night and the next morning it worked. He took this as a sign of God being with him. Blah blah blah.

Dial it forward and he gets back to earth and decides he needs to minister. And in doing so, he figures out that the best way to do it is to find Noah's ark. So he devotes most of the rest of his life to finding that ark. And it turns out that Mt Ararat is not an ideal place to go hunting for stuff. Really cold and rocky there.

So, I'm having a hard time listening to much without wondering how an astronaut can think that water got high enough to put a boat up there in the first place.
Astronauts didn't invent anything, they were mostly fighter pilots who demonstrated an ability to withstand high g and follow orders. Religious delusion creeps in even amongst top notch scientists though, it's just far less common than amongst the gen pop. If you're smart enough to be smart you are less likely to have the neurological failings that make you believe in fairies, but it is clearly possible to be afflicted with them and also be smart in more practical ways. Sad but demonstrably true.
The United States Air Force is full of batshit crazy evangelicals

https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-air-fo ... or-get-out

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:48 am
by Zerobeat
spudoc wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:35 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:19 am Weightlifting dinosaurs.
Noah didn't take the dinosaurs on the ark. Because they weren't Christian like all the modern animals are. So they all drowned.
He also did not take the Unicorns. They were hiding and playing silly games, and Noah just couldn't wait for them.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:48 am
by Stapes
There was probably a dude named Jesus who scammed a bunch of ignorant believers. Mohammed probably saw how well it worked and decided to start his own brand. Not unlike a Graham or Olsteen today

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:49 am
by spudoc
captquint wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:47 am
analhamster wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:19 am
Flumper wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:01 am I was watching this documentary last night about Jim Irwin. He was an astronaut that went to the moon. Anyway, while on the moon they had trouble with getting the steering to work on the lunar rover. So he prayed that night and the next morning it worked. He took this as a sign of God being with him. Blah blah blah.

Dial it forward and he gets back to earth and decides he needs to minister. And in doing so, he figures out that the best way to do it is to find Noah's ark. So he devotes most of the rest of his life to finding that ark. And it turns out that Mt Ararat is not an ideal place to go hunting for stuff. Really cold and rocky there.

So, I'm having a hard time listening to much without wondering how an astronaut can think that water got high enough to put a boat up there in the first place.
Astronauts didn't invent anything, they were mostly fighter pilots who demonstrated an ability to withstand high g and follow orders. Religious delusion creeps in even amongst top notch scientists though, it's just far less common than amongst the gen pop. If you're smart enough to be smart you are less likely to have the neurological failings that make you believe in fairies, but it is clearly possible to be afflicted with them and also be smart in more practical ways. Sad but demonstrably true.
The United States Air Force is full of batshit crazy evangelicals

https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-air-fo ... or-get-out
Not surprising considering the landmark building at the Air Force Academy is the chapel

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:51 am
by spudoc
Stapes wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:48 am There was probably a dude named Jesus who scammed a bunch of ignorant believers. Mohammed probably saw how well it worked and decided to start his own brand. Not unlike a Graham or Olsteen today
Peter used a guy named Jesus to scam a bunch of ignorant believers. And thus began the most successful cult so far.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:59 am
by Wut
Flumper wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:01 am I was watching this documentary last night about Jim Irwin. He was an astronaut that went to the moon. Anyway, while on the moon they had trouble with getting the steering to work on the lunar rover. So he prayed that night and the next morning it worked. He took this as a sign of God being with him. Blah blah blah.

Dial it forward and he gets back to earth and decides he needs to minister. And in doing so, he figures out that the best way to do it is to find Noah's ark. So he devotes most of the rest of his life to finding that ark. And it turns out that Mt Ararat is not an ideal place to go hunting for stuff. Really cold and rocky there.

So, I'm having a hard time listening to much without wondering how an astronaut can think that water got high enough to put a boat up there in the first place.
Plate tectonics. Duh.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:05 am
by CaptQuint
Fucking Columbus sailed that bitch up there with Portuguese technology

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:08 am
by megman
Earthworms. On their backs.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:16 am
by Reservoir Dog
captquint wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:05 am Fucking Columbus sailed that bitch up there with Portuguese technology
:rolling:

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:08 am
by WestTexasCrude
Stapes wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:39 am Noah's Ark is about as legit as Adam and Eve.
In before AH claims that British boat building technology was so awesome that if they had built the ark, it would still be there.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:26 am
by WestTexasCrude
Actually, the World flood story was recorded by many ancient civilizations. All almost identical (Well, except the Noah thing) Archeologists think they know where it comes from. A few hundred of thousands ago, before people, a land obstruction at the few mile wide Straight of Gibraltar gave way, flooding the Mediterranean and lowering World sea levels by hundreds of feet. Then, around 8,000 BC, the super narrow gap in the Dardanelles near modern day Instanbul, Turkey did the same thing and flooded the present day Black Sea within a year or two. They think that was what they were describing.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:29 am
by DandyDon
Flumper wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:30 am So, Mount Ararat is almost 17,000 feet high. Above 12,000 feet you can get sick without oxygen. That's a problem that I have never heard talked about on the ark.
If the ark came to rest on Mount Ararat as the waters receded it would have been @ sea level - not 17,000 ft ASL. So, no problem with lack of oxygen until the water dropped a massive amount.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:39 am
by AnalHamster
Yup, and all the water that magically appeared and disappeared is covered by magic, so there's really no scientific issue at all with the whole theory. Some of it of course just spilled over the edge of the flat earth, which is where comets come from.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:53 pm
by beagleboy
Stapes wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:48 am There was probably a dude named Jesus who scammed a bunch of ignorant believers. Mohammed probably saw how well it worked and decided to start his own brand. Not unlike a Graham or Olsteen today
Olsteen and Graham are just reselling the same story - the real examples would be Joseph Smith or L. Ron Hubbard.

Re: So and Astronaut and Noah's Ark

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:25 pm
by Animal
DandyDon wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:29 am
Flumper wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:30 am So, Mount Ararat is almost 17,000 feet high. Above 12,000 feet you can get sick without oxygen. That's a problem that I have never heard talked about on the ark.
If the ark came to rest on Mount Ararat as the waters receded it would have been @ sea level - not 17,000 ft ASL. So, no problem with lack of oxygen until the water dropped a massive amount.
well, fuck me. i didn't think about that. :lol: all that water would havae squished the oxygen up there.