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Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:49 pm
by Animal
how the fuck is it that no matter what happens, it ends up in an argument about Trump?

here some complete moron goes charles manson half the globe away and in less than 1/2 a day its about Trump.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:51 pm
by VisionaryEric
So, Evv. You thick, fat, or skinny these days?

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:52 pm
by CaptQuint

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:54 pm
by VisionaryEric
You don't need "the media" to know that.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:57 pm
by VisionaryEric
VisionaryEric wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:51 pm So, Evv. You thick, fat, or skinny these days?
Answer.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:58 pm
by WestTexasCrude
Flumper wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:49 pm how the fuck is it that no matter what happens, it ends up in an argument about Trump?

here some complete moron goes charles manson half the globe away and in less than 1/2 a day its about Trump.
Dude, not 3 days ago, there was a story in the New York Times. It was about the battle over land rights between black/ white citizens in South Africa. An issue that has been going for decades since apartheid was banned. The author had to include the following in the headline "Trump is somewhat to blame". WTF? It's like they toss and turn at night until they see some mystical connection. It's really a sickness.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:59 pm
by CaptQuint
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Friday closed the nation’s borders to refugees from around the world, ordering that families fleeing the slaughter in Syria be indefinitely blocked from entering the United States, and temporarily suspending immigration from several predominantly Muslim countries.

In an executive order that he said was part of an extreme vetting plan to keep out “radical Islamic terrorists,” Mr. Trump also established a religious test for refugees from Muslim nations: He ordered that Christians and others from minority religions be granted priority over Muslims.

“We don’t want them here,” Mr. Trump said of Islamist terrorists during a signing ceremony at the Pentagon. “We want to ensure that we are not admitting into our country the very threats our soldiers are fighting overseas. We only want to admit those into our country who will support our country, and love deeply our people.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/us/p ... ule=inline

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:01 pm
by VinceBordenIII
It’s funny that, while people are hanging this on righties, etc., I have come to believe that most Muslim terrorists are basically criminals who snap and decide to hang their bad deeds on their religion. That seems to be what we see with the euro Muslim terrorists.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:02 pm
by Animal
Biker wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:51 pm
Flumper wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:49 pm how the fuck is it that no matter what happens, it ends up in an argument about Trump?

here some complete moron goes charles manson half the globe away and in less than 1/2 a day its about Trump.
Because the media has been telling us that Trump is the Bat Signal for white supremacists
well, the media is sort of like a fisherman. they have to bait their hooks with what they think will catch the most fish. so, obviously, the fish are telling them this is what they want.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:07 pm
by VinceBordenIII
Find within the text of the initial Trump executive order.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics ... index.html

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:09 pm
by AnalHamster
VinceBordenIII wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:39 pm
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:14 pm
Not the first version, not even the more diluted second version. The third version is in effect.

Trump called for a "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on." and that my retard friend is illegal.
Is that what the law they initially wrote said? A total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States?
The law they wrote was the closest they thought they could legally get to trump's clearly stated aim of banning all muslims from entering. They misjudged and it got shot down several times before they found a line the courts could parse.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:11 pm
by WestTexasCrude
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:59 pm WASHINGTON — President Trump on Friday closed the nation’s borders to refugees from around the world, ordering that families fleeing the slaughter in Syria be indefinitely blocked from entering the United States, and temporarily suspending immigration from several predominantly Muslim countries.

In an executive order that he said was part of an extreme vetting plan to keep out “radical Islamic terrorists,” Mr. Trump also established a religious test for refugees from Muslim nations: He ordered that Christians and others from minority religions be granted priority over Muslims.

“We don’t want them here,” Mr. Trump said of Islamist terrorists during a signing ceremony at the Pentagon. “We want to ensure that we are not admitting into our country the very threats our soldiers are fighting overseas. We only want to admit those into our country who will support our country, and love deeply our people.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/us/p ... ule=inline
Excellent. Exactly why he will be in office until Jan 2025 and then hand over the next 8 years to Pence. God, these liberals idiots still don't get it.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:15 pm
by CaptQuint
(e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest -- including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship -- and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:26 pm
by WestTexasCrude
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:15 pm (e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest -- including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship -- and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.
Blah, blah, blah. He's standing up for our citizens. Dem's are going to get killed just on this one issue, forget their lurch to the far far left. The Democratic party may never recover in our lifetime.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:29 pm
by CaptQuint
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:26 pm
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:15 pm (e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest -- including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship -- and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.
derp derp babble babble earthworms glaciers $40,000 a month derp derp
Nobody takes anything you say seriously. You have proven your incompetence many times over

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:39 pm
by CaptQuint

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:45 pm
by WestTexasCrude
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:29 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:26 pm
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:15 pm (e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest -- including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship -- and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.
derp derp babble babble earthworms glaciers $40,000 a month derp derp
Nobody takes anything you say seriously. You have proven your incompetence many times over
See your side of the political argument back around 2040. Your reps are doomed until they get their shit together. Should have taken the 2016 election as a wake up call. They refused. Enjoy your 2 decades in the Wilderness.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:58 pm
by CaptQuint
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:45 pm
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:29 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:26 pm
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:15 pm (e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest -- including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship -- and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.
derp derp babble babble earthworms glaciers $40,000 a month derp derp
Nobody takes anything you say seriously. You have proven your incompetence many times over
See your side of the political argument back around 2040. Your reps are doomed until they get their shit together. Should have taken the 2016 election as a wake up call. They refused. Enjoy your 2 decades in the Wilderness.
I guess you snoozed through last November???

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:15 am
by WestTexasCrude
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:58 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:45 pm
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:29 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:26 pm
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:15 pm (e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest -- including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship -- and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.
derp derp babble babble earthworms glaciers $40,000 a month derp derp
Nobody takes anything you say seriously. You have proven your incompetence many times over
See your side of the political argument back around 2040. Your reps are doomed until they get their shit together. Should have taken the 2016 election as a wake up call. They refused. Enjoy your 2 decades in the Wilderness.
I guess you snoozed through last November???
Oh, yeah. Those low turnout mid-terms. Last 50+ years every incumbent (except for George W- post 9/11) has lost seats. The biggest losers have been Clinton 1994 / -54 in the House/ -10 in the senate. Obama 2010 -63 in the House/ -6 in the Senate. Trump lost seats in the -40 in the House and gained +2 in the Senate. Yes, what a setback. Harbinger of what's coming in Nov 2020 with your clown car candidates.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:21 am
by CaptQuint
WestTexasCrude wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:15 am
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:58 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:45 pm
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:29 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:26 pm
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:15 pm (e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest -- including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship -- and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.
derp derp babble babble earthworms glaciers $40,000 a month derp derp
Nobody takes anything you say seriously. You have proven your incompetence many times over
See your side of the political argument back around 2040. Your reps are doomed until they get their shit together. Should have taken the 2016 election as a wake up call. They refused. Enjoy your 2 decades in the Wilderness.
I guess you snoozed through last November???
Oh, yeah. Those low turnout mid-terms. Last 50+ years every incumbent (except for George W- post 9/11) has lost seats. The biggest losers have been Clinton 1994 / -54 in the House/ -10 in the senate. Obama 2010 -63 in the House/ -6 in the Senate. Trump lost seats in the -40 in the House and gained +2 in the Senate. Yes, what a setback. Harbinger of what's coming in Nov 2020 with your clown car candidates.
Are you really this stupid?

2018’s record-setting voter turnout, in one chart
It’s the highest level in a century for a midterm election.

Image

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ns-turnout

A Boatload Of Ballots: Midterm Voter Turnout Hit 50-Year High

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/08/66519769 ... -year-high

BRIEFING 2018 MIDTERM ELECTIONS
Americans Turned Out to Vote in the Midterms at a Level Not Seen in More Than a Century

http://fortune.com/2018/11/14/voter-tur ... ince-1914/

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:22 am
by VinceBordenIII
Parties always recover. Reagan was elected after Carter’s single term. People have short memories.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:29 am
by Geist
VinceBordenIII wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:22 am Parties always recover. Reagan was elected after Carter’s single term. People have short memories.
The Democrats never quite recovered after Peanutgate.

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:32 am
by fouts
Yogi the bear could have beat Carter

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:32 am
by CaptQuint
Geist wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:29 am
VinceBordenIII wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:22 am Parties always recover. Reagan was elected after Carter’s single term. People have short memories.
The Democrats never quite recovered after Peanutgate.
And Billy Beer

Re: NZ Terror Attack

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:34 am
by WestTexasCrude
captquint wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:21 am
WestTexasCrude wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:15 am
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:58 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:45 pm
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:29 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:26 pm derp derp babble babble earthworms glaciers $40,000 a month derp derp
Nobody takes anything you say seriously. You have proven your incompetence many times over
See your side of the political argument back around 2040. Your reps are doomed until they get their shit together. Should have taken the 2016 election as a wake up call. They refused. Enjoy your 2 decades in the Wilderness.
I guess you snoozed through last November???
Oh, yeah. Those low turnout mid-terms. Last 50+ years every incumbent (except for George W- post 9/11) has lost seats. The biggest losers have been Clinton 1994 / -54 in the House/ -10 in the senate. Obama 2010 -63 in the House/ -6 in the Senate. Trump lost seats in the -40 in the House and gained +2 in the Senate. Yes, what a setback. Harbinger of what's coming in Nov 2020 with your clown car candidates.
Are you really this stupid?

2018’s record-setting voter turnout, in one chart
It’s the highest level in a century for a midterm election.

Image

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ns-turnout

A Boatload Of Ballots: Midterm Voter Turnout Hit 50-Year High

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/08/66519769 ... -year-high

BRIEFING 2018 MIDTERM ELECTIONS
Americans Turned Out to Vote in the Midterms at a Level Not Seen in More Than a Century

http://fortune.com/2018/11/14/voter-tur ... ince-1914/
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Shithead can sit on his hill top spewing statistics with CNN blaring in the background all he wants. Doesn't change any reality as he'll see in about 18 months. The delusion is really mind boggling.