So, was it a lab leak or nah?

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Did the COVID pandemic begin because of a lab leak from the WIV?

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Re: So, was it a lab leak or nah?

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CHEEZY17 wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:32 am
spudoc wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:43 pm
Cassandros wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:56 pm
spudoc wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:52 pm
Cassandros wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:50 pm
spudoc wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:21 pm

What's interesting is that they are obsessed over what people with agendas are saying about the e-mails and not what the e-mails actually say.
You seem to be in stage one... of five.

Don't worry, do the work.

You'll get through them all.
You mean if I try hard enough I can be a bat shit conspiracy nut. Oh yea I can't wait.
Look, I know you put a lot of faith in certain people and they betrayed you.

And that hurts.

But refusing to acknowledge what's right in front of your face won't make that sting any less painful.
You think not only have you found a smoking gun but that you got a confession. The truth is you have nothing. As you guys loved to say, a big nothing burger.
So youre sticking with animal transmission theory? No way it comes from a lab?
Still waiting...
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:34 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:32 am
spudoc wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:43 pm
Cassandros wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:56 pm
spudoc wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:52 pm
Cassandros wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:50 pm

You seem to be in stage one... of five.

Don't worry, do the work.

You'll get through them all.
You mean if I try hard enough I can be a bat shit conspiracy nut. Oh yea I can't wait.
Look, I know you put a lot of faith in certain people and they betrayed you.

And that hurts.

But refusing to acknowledge what's right in front of your face won't make that sting any less painful.
You think not only have you found a smoking gun but that you got a confession. The truth is you have nothing. As you guys loved to say, a big nothing burger.
So youre sticking with animal transmission theory? No way it comes from a lab?
Still waiting...
Was there an exposure in the lab where they were studying a virus that had origins in the natural world? Possibly. Is Covid a man made disease. No.
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I suppose it’s possible a virus could construct itself exactly like it was modified in a lab. There’s a first time for everything.
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Charliesheen wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:19 pm I suppose it’s possible a virus could construct itself exactly like it was modified in a lab. There’s a first time for everything.
Lay out your case that this was a human created virus.
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spudoc wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:24 pm
Charliesheen wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:19 pm I suppose it’s possible a virus could construct itself exactly like it was modified in a lab. There’s a first time for everything.
Lay out your case that this was a human created virus.
The genome sequence literally violates the laws of physics by having four amino acid parts having a positive charge. The original corona virus did indeed come from a bat but it was then spliced and engineered.
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It’s really astonishing to watch these progressives contort themselves to defend the original narrative, all because their big bad orange man will be proven correct. Almost as if they can give a rats ass about the science they claim to support :idea:
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Never said human created. But modified in ways that don’t replicate natural evolution.

I posted the paper. It was very specific in comparing natural vs lab origins. The leap of faith one needs to execute to believe the outer structure isn’t man-made is wide.
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Why is it the left has to side with our enemies, over and over.

What’s the payoff for protecting the Chi-comma?
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Charliesheen wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:02 pm Why is it the left has to side with our enemies, over and over.

What’s the payoff for protecting the Chi-comma?
The left likes the way we’ve become similar to the CCP, with official, govt approved facts that are defended by the press. Remember when the socials were criticized by leftists when they bowed to China and created censors within China? Now they literally applaud the same exact thing here in the US. It’s treasonous and frankly more dangerous to our democracy than a riot with zip ties and Buffalo horns
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Biker wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:57 pm
spudoc wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:24 pm
Charliesheen wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:19 pm I suppose it’s possible a virus could construct itself exactly like it was modified in a lab. There’s a first time for everything.
Lay out your case that this was a human created virus.
The genome sequence literally violates the laws of physics by having four amino acid parts having a positive charge. The original corona virus did indeed come from a bat but it was then spliced and engineered.


Just swallowing any bullshit that comes your way as long as it backs your biases.... No further research is needed to see what you are reading is actually credible.? So far as I can tell this "research" is scetchy at best. Your an ignorant fool who is constantly duped by internet frauds.


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I blame Biker.
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Keep swinging, comrade. That’s not the only marker signifying lab engineering.
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Stapes wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:58 pm
Other than the fact that this information goes against the comfortable narrative you've put so much faith and emotional investment into already...

Is there a logical reason to ignore this data?
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Stapes wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:58 pm
Good cuck

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Charliesheen wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:13 pm Keep swinging, comrade. That’s not the only marker signifying lab engineering.
Of course. In fact, the more evidence stacks up, the more insane you would have to be to accept that it came naturally, with the only evidence you can cite is that China and Fauci said so. These progressive cunts are traitors

Fuck, even our good professor has bailed and ran for hills from this thread.
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Cassandros wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:39 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:58 pm
Other than the fact that this information goes against the comfortable narrative you've put so much faith and emotional investment into already...

Is there a logical reason to ignore this data?
If you read the rest of the article that Stapes posted there is a clear logical reason to ignore the data. The claim that it is impossible to have 4 positive charged amino acids in a row is false.
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spudoc wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:12 pm
Cassandros wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:39 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:58 pm
Other than the fact that this information goes against the comfortable narrative you've put so much faith and emotional investment into already...

Is there a logical reason to ignore this data?
If you read the rest of the article that Stapes posted there is a clear logical reason to ignore the data. The claim that it is impossible to have 4 positive charged amino acids in a row is false.
To "ignore the data".

There's your first problem.

You are so full of stage one (denial) you are willing to find any reason to "ignore the data" and call it "good".

Like I told you before, its going to be rough for you over the next few weeks, lots of denial, anger, bargaining... but if you are honest with yourself, and you stop accepting cherry picked data, you will make through the process and accept that you were betrayed by those you blindly trusted.
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Cassandros wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:23 pm
spudoc wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:12 pm
Cassandros wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:39 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:58 pm
Other than the fact that this information goes against the comfortable narrative you've put so much faith and emotional investment into already...

Is there a logical reason to ignore this data?
If you read the rest of the article that Stapes posted there is a clear logical reason to ignore the data. The claim that it is impossible to have 4 positive charged amino acids in a row is false.
To "ignore the data".

There's your first problem.

You are so full of stage one (denial) you are willing to find any reason to "ignore the data" and call it "good".

Like I told you before, its going to be rough for you over the next few weeks, lots of denial, anger, bargaining... but if you are honest with yourself, and you stop accepting cherry picked data, you will make through the process and accept that you were betrayed by those you blindly trusted.
i would say that in the end you will be proven wrong yet again and be crushed but you are a conspiracy nut and no amount of evidence will ever convince you otherwise.
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spudoc wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:33 pm
Cassandros wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:23 pm
spudoc wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:12 pm
Cassandros wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:39 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:58 pm
Other than the fact that this information goes against the comfortable narrative you've put so much faith and emotional investment into already...

Is there a logical reason to ignore this data?
If you read the rest of the article that Stapes posted there is a clear logical reason to ignore the data. The claim that it is impossible to have 4 positive charged amino acids in a row is false.
To "ignore the data".

There's your first problem.

You are so full of stage one (denial) you are willing to find any reason to "ignore the data" and call it "good".

Like I told you before, its going to be rough for you over the next few weeks, lots of denial, anger, bargaining... but if you are honest with yourself, and you stop accepting cherry picked data, you will make through the process and accept that you were betrayed by those you blindly trusted.
i would say that in the end you will be proven wrong yet again and be crushed but you are a conspiracy nut and no amount of evidence will ever convince you otherwise.
Oh, the irony of you simultaneously "ignoring data" and calling me the "conspiracy nut".

LOL!!!

Does lashing out at me make you feel better, kiddo?
--> Too bad it doesn't impact the facts that have come out that show lab involvement is highly probable.
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The direct-from-bats thesis is a chimera between the natural emergence and lab escape scenarios. It’s a possibility that can’t be dismissed. But against it are the facts that 1) both SARS2 and RaTG13 seem to have only feeble affinity for bat cells, so one can’t be fully confident that either ever saw the inside of a bat; and 2) the theory is no better than the natural emergence scenario at explaining how SARS2 gained its furin cleavage site, or why the furin cleavage site is determined by human-preferred arginine codons instead of by the bat-preferred codons.
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Imagine the internal struggle the Lefties are dealing with. :lol:
They are trapped in a corner because to admit the virus could be from a lab means having to admit Trump was right.
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Y’all should get government jobs, from a few emails ya got this thing figured out. Congrats
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spudoc wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:28 am
Animal wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:51 am
spudoc wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:44 am Do some research you insufferable moron. This is an absolute nothing burger.
i asked you a simple question, you fucking retard. do YOU think it at all odd that Fauci was getting emails about a coronavirus bioweapon? If you don't just fucking say it.
He got an e-mail from a conspiracy nut. It’s not like the guy is a colleague of Fauci’s. He’s a self titled “independent researcher” who has no credentials.
ah. okay, that makes sense. thanks.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:18 pm Imagine the internal struggle the Lefties are dealing with. :lol:
They are trapped in a corner because to admit the virus could be from a lab means having to admit Trump was right.
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When you say “from a lab” do you mean escaped from a lab or was created in a lab?
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spudoc wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:10 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:18 pm Imagine the internal struggle the Lefties are dealing with. :lol:
They are trapped in a corner because to admit the virus could be from a lab means having to admit Trump was right.
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When you say “from a lab” do you mean escaped from a lab or was created in a lab?
At this point I believe its 50/50 either way. What I DO believe is that it did NOT come from some sleazy-ass wet market like the Chinese said it did. We should be smart enough by now to not believe anything the Chinese say.
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