Interesting Theory on Building Pyramids

[Zerobeat]

This sounds like great fodder for a 2 am pot smoking session with a bunch of guys listening to old Led Zeppelin albums.

More like Pink Floyd.

Agreed. Maybe even a little "Fly Like an Eagle" era Steve Miller Band

[AnalHamster]

These structures contain massive stones carved in relief in a style so incredibly complex that we couldn't even fathom the ability to replicate it and the stones are so perfectly cut as to defy modern tech.

Ha ha, knew it would be in there somewhere

Yeah, that's bullshit. With some patience, enough spare bits, and a dremel you can carve designs more intricate than any ancient stonemason, and they spent their lives training to do it. Then did a few (takes a while with basic tools) and died of old age in their 30s when offerings to the local god of sniffles failed to cure the resulting pulmonary disease.

[JackRabbit_Slim]

Lmao.. you make this too easy as your point is so flawed. You can't possibly say, "They couldn't build the shit we build." To say that suggests they tried or even cared to. Just because they didn't do it doesn't mean they couldn't.. THAT'S a big gap to bridge and you can't possibly do it without making completely impossible claims. And that's my whole point that for some reason neither of you can grasp.

They focused their energies towards the pursuits that they valued. Assuming ours are the only ones worth pursuing is kinda mind bogglingly dumb. They didn't try to go to the moon so you can't say they failed at it. Claiming they couldn't do things that they likely never cared to attempt is a rather pointless statement and just follows the narrow-minded historical narrative.

My point is that "advanced" can't have a single definition. The idea that it could is absurd. Step back from that and maybe you'll understand. To say that we "could build a giant pyramid" is also a pointless statement as it's not relevant. Though we could build a giant pyramid using our modern equipment and materials, we couldn't replicate the great pyramid nor do we have modern machinery big enough to move the largest megalithic stones on earth today.

Advanced can in fact have a definition, it's in something called a dictionary. Words mean what they mean, trying to argue by changing what words mean is a non starter. I can say that they couldn't build the things we build, because they did not. If we get wiped out tomorrow the next civilisation will be finding a bunch of our shit. You don't seem to grasp development, some little spear chucker in the amazon can't wake up tomorrow and decide he wants to build a skyscraper or a supercomputer, because he has no concept of those things, which are built on a thousands of incremental improvements interspersed with the occasional major breakthrough. A major breakthrough for him would be figuring out how to melt rocks and fashion the results into a new point for his spear, and if he gets that far he leaves archaeological evidence of the before and the after. You don't choose not to build a giant crane powered from the nearest nuclear plant while paddling your barge to the local pyramid, you simply have no conception of those things. You can't reach the point where you can conceive of those things without building an advanced civilisation already, one that would leave significant amounts of evidence.

What we actually find is they build silly shit out of stone, which they worked with basic tools, and generally made to appease their imaginary gods. Why do you think we couldn't replicate the great pyramid? I suspect that's at the heart of your misunderstanding here, you saw some documentary saying it was so super advanced the latest machinery couldn't do it or something? Before the bit about the aliens? Yeah, you got duped. We can make an even bigger pyramid with sandstone, and one to put that it using our more advanced techniques and materials, it's just that it's a pretty silly thing to build when you don't think getting mummified and put in it with a bunch of slaves to serve you in the next life is the very best idea.

Your arguments are all the same.. you spout a bunch of crap.. say dupe a few times, then claim someone watched a documentary.

Fact is you keep skirting my point but I think at this point it's intentional so.. I'll stop wasting my time explaining it.

[WestTexasCrude]

The issue is that you're neglecting to consider the scale of time. Our history isn't measure in hundreds but thousands and thousands of years. We went from pulling wagons with horses to flying around the earth in space ships in less than 100 years. How many other such brief periods have happened over the thousands and thousands that came before? Do you think we're special? Of course you do. Fact is, the probability suggests there's a better chance that we did, than we didn't.

well, the only reason that i would think that is because no one has come up with anything that suggests otherwise. Or maybe I'm not understanding what the hell you are suggesting. Are you saying that thousands and thousands of years ago, long lost to any memories or archeology, there (probability speaking) existed a civilization that made advancements faster than we do today?

yes and no. I'm suggesting that there is the possibility and great likelihood that civilizations existed previously who advanced in their own directions far beyond the technology that we're currently capable of. The issue is that you're incapable of looking at the idea of "advancement" through any lens but our own. Just because they didn't do what we do doesn't mean they couldn't. It means they didn't value it. And if you look around this great high-tech, super duper advanced society of morbidly obese, violent, depressed, self-obsessed, social media crazed, fast food eating, reality tv watching, ass fucking, over-populated, bullshit world we currently have created, it shouldn't be too hard to see why.

Yeah, I'm not buying it either. I think the timeline for civilization as spelled out by centuries of studies seems accurate. Things advanced and retreated herky-jerky but no ancient super civilization 100,000 years ago which I'm thinking JRS is suggesting. Archeology evidence disputes all that. In fact, 100,000 years ago, Humans were barely leaving Africa.

[AnalHamster]

Lmao.. you make this too easy as your point is so flawed. You can't possibly say, "They couldn't build the shit we build." To say that suggests they tried or even cared to. Just because they didn't do it doesn't mean they couldn't.. THAT'S a big gap to bridge and you can't possibly do it without making completely impossible claims. And that's my whole point that for some reason neither of you can grasp.

They focused their energies towards the pursuits that they valued. Assuming ours are the only ones worth pursuing is kinda mind bogglingly dumb. They didn't try to go to the moon so you can't say they failed at it. Claiming they couldn't do things that they likely never cared to attempt is a rather pointless statement and just follows the narrow-minded historical narrative.

My point is that "advanced" can't have a single definition. The idea that it could is absurd. Step back from that and maybe you'll understand. To say that we "could build a giant pyramid" is also a pointless statement as it's not relevant. Though we could build a giant pyramid using our modern equipment and materials, we couldn't replicate the great pyramid nor do we have modern machinery big enough to move the largest megalithic stones on earth today.

Advanced can in fact have a definition, it's in something called a dictionary. Words mean what they mean, trying to argue by changing what words mean is a non starter. I can say that they couldn't build the things we build, because they did not. If we get wiped out tomorrow the next civilisation will be finding a bunch of our shit. You don't seem to grasp development, some little spear chucker in the amazon can't wake up tomorrow and decide he wants to build a skyscraper or a supercomputer, because he has no concept of those things, which are built on a thousands of incremental improvements interspersed with the occasional major breakthrough. A major breakthrough for him would be figuring out how to melt rocks and fashion the results into a new point for his spear, and if he gets that far he leaves archaeological evidence of the before and the after. You don't choose not to build a giant crane powered from the nearest nuclear plant while paddling your barge to the local pyramid, you simply have no conception of those things. You can't reach the point where you can conceive of those things without building an advanced civilisation already, one that would leave significant amounts of evidence.

What we actually find is they build silly shit out of stone, which they worked with basic tools, and generally made to appease their imaginary gods. Why do you think we couldn't replicate the great pyramid? I suspect that's at the heart of your misunderstanding here, you saw some documentary saying it was so super advanced the latest machinery couldn't do it or something? Before the bit about the aliens? Yeah, you got duped. We can make an even bigger pyramid with sandstone, and one to put that it using our more advanced techniques and materials, it's just that it's a pretty silly thing to build when you don't think getting mummified and put in it with a bunch of slaves to serve you in the next life is the very best idea.

Your arguments are all the same.. you spout a bunch of crap.. say dupe a few times, then claim someone watched a documentary.

Fact is you keep skirting my point but I think at this point it's intentional so.. I'll stop wasting my time explaining it.

Your point that there's a special definition of advanced you can't articulate and if we use that one then what you're saying makes sense? Yeah, kinda missing some key details on that one since you can't say what advanced really means if advanced doesn't cover it.

[megman]

Maybe someone should ask the Mayans or the Aztecs or the Incas......

[WestTexasCrude]

yes and no. I'm suggesting that there is the possibility and great likelihood that civilizations existed previously who advanced in their own directions far beyond the technology that we're currently capable of. The issue is that you're incapable of looking at the idea of "advancement" through any lens but our own. Just because they didn't do what we do doesn't mean they couldn't. It means they didn't value it. And if you look around this great high-tech, super duper advanced society of morbidly obese, violent, depressed, self-obsessed, social media crazed, fast food eating, reality tv watching, ass fucking, over-populated, bullshit world we currently have created, it shouldn't be too hard to see why.

My point is that you basically accused me of being too arrogant to think that the stupid people a few thousand years could measure up to anything that WE can do now. And that my wondering how these knuckle draggers could figure out how to dig rocks and make a pyramid was the fascination. If you actually read my commments, i was more fascinated at how brilliant the methods described in this particular theory were, no matter what time period you put it in. I can guarantee you, that if you pulled up 10,000 20 to 30 year old people today, and gave them nothing more than the tools available at the time, they would never figure out how to do it.

I have studied roman, greek, egyptian, you name it, architecture. It is all fascinating to me. An architect or an engineer can design almost anything, make some plans and some 3d models and then hire a contractor to build it. They show you everything except one thing. How to build it. You can design an arch to span a river, do the engineering and prove that it will work. But then some dumbass contractor with a high school degree has to figure out how to put an arch together that only works when its finished. Often times that's where the brilliance lies.

Holy crap

[WestTexasCrude]

well, the only reason that i would think that is because no one has come up with anything that suggests otherwise. Or maybe I'm not understanding what the hell you are suggesting. Are you saying that thousands and thousands of years ago, long lost to any memories or archeology, there (probability speaking) existed a civilization that made advancements faster than we do today?

yes and no. I'm suggesting that there is the possibility and great likelihood that civilizations existed previously who advanced in their own directions far beyond the technology that we're currently capable of. The issue is that you're incapable of looking at the idea of "advancement" through any lens but our own. Just because they didn't do what we do doesn't mean they couldn't. It means they didn't value it. And if you look around this great high-tech, super duper advanced society of morbidly obese, violent, depressed, self-obsessed, social media crazed, fast food eating, reality tv watching, ass fucking, over-populated, bullshit world we currently have created, it shouldn't be too hard to see why.

They must have been pretty advanced to make everything so completely biodegradable that no traces of them remain. Super advanced ancient hippies. Makes sense. Except for the dying out part, but maybe they just took off on biodegradable spaceships.

You're being simple and just proving my point. You and Flumper are both arguing that since they didn't build the shit we build and leave the trash we leave, they weren't advanced. That's not a very advanced perspective. It's completely narrow-minded. I expect more from you Mr. Anal

Your point is unclear, but appears to be that you have your own special definition of 'advanced' and can't quite articulate it. They couldn't build the shit we build, whilst we could, if so inclined, build giant pyramids.

Lmao.. you make this too easy as your point is so flawed. You can't possibly say, "They couldn't build the shit we build." To say that suggests they tried or even cared to. Just because they didn't do it doesn't mean they couldn't.. THAT'S a big gap to bridge and you can't possibly do it without making completely impossible claims. And that's my whole point that for some reason neither of you can grasp.

They focused their energies towards the pursuits that they valued. Assuming ours are the only ones worth pursuing is kinda mind bogglingly dumb. They didn't try to go to the moon so you can't say they failed at it. Claiming they couldn't do things that they likely never cared to attempt is a rather pointless statement and just follows the narrow-minded historical narrative.

My point is that "advanced" can't have a single definition. The idea that it could is absurd. Step back from that and maybe you'll understand. To say that we "could build a giant pyramid" is also a pointless statement as it's not relevant. Though we could build a giant pyramid using our modern equipment and materials, we couldn't replicate the great pyramid nor do we have modern machinery big enough to move the largest megalithic stones on earth today.

I'm sorry. I'm still not following the logic behind your argument. I'm sure it's just me.

[JackRabbit_Slim]

Lmao.. you make this too easy as your point is so flawed. You can't possibly say, "They couldn't build the shit we build." To say that suggests they tried or even cared to. Just because they didn't do it doesn't mean they couldn't.. THAT'S a big gap to bridge and you can't possibly do it without making completely impossible claims. And that's my whole point that for some reason neither of you can grasp.

They focused their energies towards the pursuits that they valued. Assuming ours are the only ones worth pursuing is kinda mind bogglingly dumb. They didn't try to go to the moon so you can't say they failed at it. Claiming they couldn't do things that they likely never cared to attempt is a rather pointless statement and just follows the narrow-minded historical narrative.

My point is that "advanced" can't have a single definition. The idea that it could is absurd. Step back from that and maybe you'll understand. To say that we "could build a giant pyramid" is also a pointless statement as it's not relevant. Though we could build a giant pyramid using our modern equipment and materials, we couldn't replicate the great pyramid nor do we have modern machinery big enough to move the largest megalithic stones on earth today.

Advanced can in fact have a definition, it's in something called a dictionary. Words mean what they mean, trying to argue by changing what words mean is a non starter. I can say that they couldn't build the things we build, because they did not. If we get wiped out tomorrow the next civilisation will be finding a bunch of our shit. You don't seem to grasp development, some little spear chucker in the amazon can't wake up tomorrow and decide he wants to build a skyscraper or a supercomputer, because he has no concept of those things, which are built on a thousands of incremental improvements interspersed with the occasional major breakthrough. A major breakthrough for him would be figuring out how to melt rocks and fashion the results into a new point for his spear, and if he gets that far he leaves archaeological evidence of the before and the after. You don't choose not to build a giant crane powered from the nearest nuclear plant while paddling your barge to the local pyramid, you simply have no conception of those things. You can't reach the point where you can conceive of those things without building an advanced civilisation already, one that would leave significant amounts of evidence.

What we actually find is they build silly shit out of stone, which they worked with basic tools, and generally made to appease their imaginary gods. Why do you think we couldn't replicate the great pyramid? I suspect that's at the heart of your misunderstanding here, you saw some documentary saying it was so super advanced the latest machinery couldn't do it or something? Before the bit about the aliens? Yeah, you got duped. We can make an even bigger pyramid with sandstone, and one to put that in using our more advanced techniques and materials, it's just that it's a pretty silly thing to build when you don't think getting mummified and put in it with a bunch of slaves to serve you in the next life is the very best idea.

The fact that you've reduced every megalithic structure in history to "silly shit built from stone to appease imaginary gods," means you're really not worth discussing this with. This is a thread for folks to discuss the pyramids, folks who are interested in them and the people who built them. You're clearly not so why don't you fuck off? The only reason you're here is to argue and pontificate which is honestly the only reason you come here to begin with.

[Reservoir Dog]

Though we could build a giant pyramid using our modern equipment and materials, we couldn't replicate the great pyramid nor do we have modern machinery big enough to move the largest megalithic stones on earth today.

Dude, give your head a shake.

[WestTexasCrude]

Does anyone else remember the craze about pyramid power in the 70's? There were claims you could sharpen razor blades by placing them under these cheap plastic pyramids over night. They could also heal you.

Actually, I believe you are remembering something different. In the mid-late 70's< Egypt agreed to a national tour of Tutankhamun's remains and relics around the US. Estimated 20% of the US population showed up. Steve Martin's "King Tut" and the Bangles "Walk like an Egyptian" songs were an example of the era.

[CaptQuint]

Does anyone else remember the craze about pyramid power in the 70's? There were claims you could sharpen razor blades by placing them under these cheap plastic pyramids over night. They could also heal you.

Actually, I believe you are remembering something different. In the mid-late 70's< Egypt agreed to a national tour of Tutankhamun's remains and relics around the US. Estimated 20% of the US population showed up. Steve Martin's "King Tut" and the Bangles "Walk like an Egyptian" songs were an example of the era.

Nope, BRR is right and you and your retard brain is wrong....again

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_power

[Reservoir Dog]

Does anyone else remember the craze about pyramid power in the 70's? There were claims you could sharpen razor blades by placing them under these cheap plastic pyramids over night. They could also heal you.

Actually, I believe you are remembering something different. In the mid-late 70's< Egypt agreed to a national tour of Tutankhamun's remains and relics around the US. Estimated 20% of the US population showed up. Steve Martin's "King Tut" and the Bangles "Walk like an Egyptian" songs were an example of the era.

No. BBR is remembering correctly.

[WestTexasCrude]

Yeah, I'm thinking 2 Gimps responding within 3 minutes have no clue about what they are talking about. No bother. I've grown accustom.

[AnalHamster]

Lmao.. you make this too easy as your point is so flawed. You can't possibly say, "They couldn't build the shit we build." To say that suggests they tried or even cared to. Just because they didn't do it doesn't mean they couldn't.. THAT'S a big gap to bridge and you can't possibly do it without making completely impossible claims. And that's my whole point that for some reason neither of you can grasp.

They focused their energies towards the pursuits that they valued. Assuming ours are the only ones worth pursuing is kinda mind bogglingly dumb. They didn't try to go to the moon so you can't say they failed at it. Claiming they couldn't do things that they likely never cared to attempt is a rather pointless statement and just follows the narrow-minded historical narrative.

My point is that "advanced" can't have a single definition. The idea that it could is absurd. Step back from that and maybe you'll understand. To say that we "could build a giant pyramid" is also a pointless statement as it's not relevant. Though we could build a giant pyramid using our modern equipment and materials, we couldn't replicate the great pyramid nor do we have modern machinery big enough to move the largest megalithic stones on earth today.

Advanced can in fact have a definition, it's in something called a dictionary. Words mean what they mean, trying to argue by changing what words mean is a non starter. I can say that they couldn't build the things we build, because they did not. If we get wiped out tomorrow the next civilisation will be finding a bunch of our shit. You don't seem to grasp development, some little spear chucker in the amazon can't wake up tomorrow and decide he wants to build a skyscraper or a supercomputer, because he has no concept of those things, which are built on a thousands of incremental improvements interspersed with the occasional major breakthrough. A major breakthrough for him would be figuring out how to melt rocks and fashion the results into a new point for his spear, and if he gets that far he leaves archaeological evidence of the before and the after. You don't choose not to build a giant crane powered from the nearest nuclear plant while paddling your barge to the local pyramid, you simply have no conception of those things. You can't reach the point where you can conceive of those things without building an advanced civilisation already, one that would leave significant amounts of evidence.

What we actually find is they build silly shit out of stone, which they worked with basic tools, and generally made to appease their imaginary gods. Why do you think we couldn't replicate the great pyramid? I suspect that's at the heart of your misunderstanding here, you saw some documentary saying it was so super advanced the latest machinery couldn't do it or something? Before the bit about the aliens? Yeah, you got duped. We can make an even bigger pyramid with sandstone, and one to put that in using our more advanced techniques and materials, it's just that it's a pretty silly thing to build when you don't think getting mummified and put in it with a bunch of slaves to serve you in the next life is the very best idea.

The fact that you've reduced every megalithic structure in history to "silly shit built from stone to appease imaginary gods," means you're really not worth discussing this with. This is a thread for folks to discuss the pyramids, folks who are interested in them and the people who built them. You're clearly not so why don't you fuck off? The only reason you're here is to argue and pontificate which is honestly the only reason you come here to begin with.

I'm not that interested in the pyramids, they were pretty advanced for people working with crude tools but a fairly trivial piece of engineering today. What I'm interested in is your delusions and conspiracy nut style beliefs about advanced past civilisations that left no traces and how we somehow couldn't cut or move big rocks like the aliens did.

[Wut]

Does anyone else remember the craze about pyramid power in the 70's? There were claims you could sharpen razor blades by placing them under these cheap plastic pyramids over night. They could also heal you.

Actually, I believe you are remembering something different. In the mid-late 70's< Egypt agreed to a national tour of Tutankhamun's remains and relics around the US. Estimated 20% of the US population showed up. Steve Martin's "King Tut" and the Bangles "Walk like an Egyptian" songs were an example of the era.

I think he's actually remembering investing in a pyramid scheme in 1978.

[CaptQuint]

Flanagan’s book was featured on the cover and in the lyrics of The Alan Parsons Project album Pyramid. "Pyramania", a song from the album, mocked the idea of pyramid power.

Pyramid power was the subject of a famous spoof by Martin Gardner in his "Mathematical Games" column in the Scientific American issue of June 1974, featuring his favorite characters Dr. Matrix and Iva Matrix.[citation needed]

The theories behind Pyramid Power convinced the Onan Family, hotel and condo developers in Gurnee, Illinois, to build the "Pyramid House" in 1977.[28][29]

Summerhill Pyramid Winery in Kelowna, British Columbia built a four-story replica of the Great Pyramid, alleged by the winery to improve the quality of wine aged within it.[30]

A religion founded in 1975, called Summum, completed the construction of a pyramid called the Summum Pyramid in Salt Lake City, Utah in 1979.

Pyramid power was used by the Toronto Maple Leafs and their coach Red Kelly during the 1975–76 quarter-final series, to counter the Philadelphia Flyers' use of Kate Smith's rendering of "God Bless America". Kelly hung a plastic model of a pyramid in the team's clubhouse after a pair of away defeats at the start of the series, and each player took turns standing under it for exactly four minutes. The Maple Leafs managed to win all three of their home matches before losing the series' decisive game seven.[31]

Terry Pratchett's fantasy novel Pyramids incorporates elements of the theory when an industry develops based around pyramids' ability to stop time.

It is common in New Age magazines to see advertisements for open metal-poled pyramids large enough to meditate under. The New Age group Share International, founded by Benjamin Creme, practices a form of meditation called 'Transmission Meditation' using an open metal-poled tetrahedron in order to tune into the cosmic energy of Maitreya and other spiritual masters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_p ... larisation

[CaptQuint]

Karel Drebal, a Czech radio engineer interested in parapsychology, read of Bovis' experiments. He was busy doing mummification experiments when, one day, he was reminded of an old army trick: place a straight edged razor on the window sill at night in the light of a full moon and the next morning the blade will be totally dull. According to Drebal, "The polarized light of the moon has an unfavorable effect on the sharpness of the blade because polarized light vibrates in one direction only." Drebal wondered if the shape of the pyramid could act as an energy accumulator for all the electromagnetic rays around us.

He put a razor blade used five times inside a Cheops pyramid model on a matchbook exactly at the height of the King's Chamber. He used it three more times and discovered it did not get blunt. At one point in his experiments, he was able to shave 200 times with the same razor blade.

During the late 1970s pyramids were being investigated as study booths in schools to relax students and energize their learning. Pyramid canisters were being created for better food storage. It's possible that sitting in a pyramid might replace the analyst's couch in the psychotherapy.

https://futurism.media/what-is-pyramid-power

[WestTexasCrude]

Really one of greatest achievement of the ancient world in human achievement occurred around 500 BC. Greek in Egypt named Eratosthenes. Based in Alexandria. Saw no shadow in his well at summer solstice but heard not the same at another location south. Measured the angles and meticulously tried to get the distances right. Using math and geometry, he calculated the Earth's Circumference within 5% of accuracy. Witness 2,000 years later with Columbus and the argument on the size of the Earth.

[CaptQuint]

[Stapes]

Look what you mother f'ers did!! You got WTC to get his Encyclopedia Brittanica collection out. Next up...….MAGMA and how it's responsible for killing the Dodo bird.

[CaptQuint]

"Walk Like an Egyptian" is a song recorded by the American band the Bangles. It was released in 1986 as the third single from the album Different Light. It was a million-selling single and became Billboard's number-one song of 1987.

[Zerobeat]

"Walk Like an Egyptian" is a song recorded by the American band the Bangles. It was released in 1986 as the third single from the album Different Light. It was a million-selling single and became Billboard's number-one song of 1987.

Susanna Hoffs is directly responsible for the resultant loss of billions of potential babies in the late 1980's.

[WestTexasCrude]

Notice it's the what can I say- the lower educated class posters all in outraged all the time. I can't tell you how much pleasure I derive watching these idiots spend their 24 hours available in their daily life spouting outrage that 1 millisecond after they post, it's gone to the wind forever.

[CHEEZY17]

One thing that is for certain: this woman did build a giant pyramid....IN MY PANTS.