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FSchmertz wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:11 pm
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i think i read one time that the helium that we have now was a by product (although a very minute by product) of the oil industry. Supposedly when you pump oil out of the ground a small amount of helium is released in the process. I don't think its a very cheap process to capture it.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:19 pm
Wut wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:14 pm they used helium balloons.
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Did you know that the world is running out of helium? Really, we are.
Truth. All of the "Party City" and other such places around here that sell party balloons could not fill balloons for about a week.
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Helium is the second most abundant element in the known Universe but rare on earth, so if your little shitstain needs a mylar birthday balloon the price might be going up if we need to send Elon to go get this very noble gas
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The local Dollar store is now charging $2 to fill a balloon due to shortages.
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Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:46 pm
megman wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:43 pm What I find more of a mystery is how they created all these intricate passageways and hidden rooms.

They had to be done at the same time as the walls rose, so really how hidden were they at the time?
well, that's also an interesting part of the video (which is long, I know). Those hidden passageways, which are at rather steep angles, might have actually been part of the system that pumped (or gravity fed) the water from springs that was used to power this whole system of building them in the first place. In other words, they weren't mysterious passageways, only conduits for the water to travel through.
I believe there's another problem with this guy's theory. The video is showing the Pyramids like on the bank of the Nile. For some damn reason (boredom during the Winter I suppose) a couple of years ago I decided to check out the Pyramid/ Sphinx site using Google Earth. I had always thought the site was East of the Nile (for some reason). Imagine my surprise to discover it was West. And if memory serves, it's a pretty good distance from the Nile, though I have no idea how far.
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:20 pm
Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:46 pm
megman wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:43 pm What I find more of a mystery is how they created all these intricate passageways and hidden rooms.

They had to be done at the same time as the walls rose, so really how hidden were they at the time?
well, that's also an interesting part of the video (which is long, I know). Those hidden passageways, which are at rather steep angles, might have actually been part of the system that pumped (or gravity fed) the water from springs that was used to power this whole system of building them in the first place. In other words, they weren't mysterious passageways, only conduits for the water to travel through.
I believe there's another problem with this guy's theory. The video is showing the Pyramids like on the bank of the Nile. For some damn reason (boredom during the Winter I suppose) a couple of years ago I decided to check out the Pyramid/ Sphinx site using Google Earth. I had always thought the site was East of the Nile (for some reason). Imagine my surprise to discover it was West. And if memory serves, it's a pretty good distance from the Nile, though I have no idea how far.
I am no expert, but they are built on a plateau just on the west bank of the Nile. By google map its about 5 miles to the river in its normal condition. I think the theories now are that they were built by egyptian farmers (not slaves) and they mostly worked in the non-ag months of the year when the Nile flooded. That may have brought the water closer to the site. Regardless, if you can build a pyramid out of over 2.5 million blocks that average about 2.5 tons each, digging a small channel 4 or 5 miles wouldn't be too much to ask.
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additionally, i think almost all theories on how they were built, coincide with the idea that the site was chosen because of its location to the Nile and in all the theories the Nile was used to transport the blocks from the quarry site to where the pyramids were built. Most other theories assume they were transported by raft. This is the first to say they may have been "floated" with the stones submerged.
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Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:36 pm additionally, i think almost all theories on how they were built, coincide with the idea that the site was chosen because of its location to the Nile and in all the theories the Nile was used to transport the blocks from the quarry site to where the pyramids were built. Most other theories assume they were transported by raft. This is the first to say they may have been "floated" with the stones submerged.
I though the pyramids were built in the quarry and the only stones brought onto the site via the river were the giant ones in the roof structure
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:03 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:52 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:55 pm
kwebber wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:22 pm Queue up WestTexasDunning-Kruger-effect to explain how it was all done
You just KNOW that's gonna happen! :lol:

5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ......
:lol: :lol: / Actually my only comment was going to be that you could fill a library with all the theories over the last 2.500 years on how they got built. Just Amazing they could build those thousands of years ago.
The pyramids are at least 4,500 years old... but whatever.
No offense here, but I dont think they were trying to figure out how they built it while they were building it.
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Considering they align perfectly with a constellation I doubt they said hey Horus just put that rock over there
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necronomous wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:46 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:03 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:52 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:55 pm
kwebber wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:22 pm Queue up WestTexasDunning-Kruger-effect to explain how it was all done
You just KNOW that's gonna happen! :lol:

5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ......
:lol: :lol: / Actually my only comment was going to be that you could fill a library with all the theories over the last 2.500 years on how they got built. Just Amazing they could build those thousands of years ago.
The pyramids are at least 4,500 years old... but whatever.
No offense here, but I dont think they were trying to figure out how they built it while they were building it.
Very true. But a 2000 year gap? Very unlikely.
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I was reading that the "average" size of the stones used was 2.5 tons. So, let's visualize a 2.5 ton block of limestone. The specific gravity of limestone is about 2.5, meaning its density is 2.5 x 62.4 = 156 lbs per cubic foot.

2.5 tons is 5,000 lbs. 5,000/156 = 32.05 cubic feet. So, let's say the average stone was 4 feet long and 2 feet thick. How tall would that make it?

32.05 / (4x2) = 4 feet tall.

So, the average stone they were moving would have been 4 x 4 x 2. If you put that stone into water, it would displace (32.05 x 62.4) 2,000 lbs of water. So, in water, that stone would weigh 3,000 lbs. if my math is right, you would need 53 basketballs to float that stone.
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CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:38 pm
Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:36 pm additionally, i think almost all theories on how they were built, coincide with the idea that the site was chosen because of its location to the Nile and in all the theories the Nile was used to transport the blocks from the quarry site to where the pyramids were built. Most other theories assume they were transported by raft. This is the first to say they may have been "floated" with the stones submerged.
I though the pyramids were built in the quarry and the only stones brought onto the site via the river were the giant ones in the roof structure
shit, man, you are getting over my head on this. I don't think the quarry for the limestone is immediately onsite, but maybe it is. I know they had to bring the granite stones from several miles away.
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Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:56 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:38 pm
Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:36 pm additionally, i think almost all theories on how they were built, coincide with the idea that the site was chosen because of its location to the Nile and in all the theories the Nile was used to transport the blocks from the quarry site to where the pyramids were built. Most other theories assume they were transported by raft. This is the first to say they may have been "floated" with the stones submerged.
I though the pyramids were built in the quarry and the only stones brought onto the site via the river were the giant ones in the roof structure
shit, man, you are getting over my head on this. I don't think the quarry for the limestone is immediately onsite, but maybe it is. I know they had to bring the granite stones from several miles away.
I'm pretty sure there is limestone quarry right next to it, the granite traveled
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They had boats, floating the stones would have been a little silly when the alternative was floating the boat. Easier on and offloading, less risk of the stone sinking and blocking your canal.

I mean, if we're going to just ignore the fact that aliens have anti-grav tech, at least think it through.
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CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:58 pm
Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:56 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:38 pm
Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:36 pm additionally, i think almost all theories on how they were built, coincide with the idea that the site was chosen because of its location to the Nile and in all the theories the Nile was used to transport the blocks from the quarry site to where the pyramids were built. Most other theories assume they were transported by raft. This is the first to say they may have been "floated" with the stones submerged.
I though the pyramids were built in the quarry and the only stones brought onto the site via the river were the giant ones in the roof structure
shit, man, you are getting over my head on this. I don't think the quarry for the limestone is immediately onsite, but maybe it is. I know they had to bring the granite stones from several miles away.
I'm pretty sure there is limestone quarry right next to it, the granite traveled
i was just reading. Yeah, you are right, some of the limestone was quarried on site. Also f the really good limestone (they didn't go into detail on how much from where) came from a quarry about 15 km away. And the granite came from about 700 km away.
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The Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson that is a cabinet level position in The Executive Branch of The American Government has a theory that the Pyramids of Giza held grain. He ponders this whilst thinking about the next $31,000 dining set he's gonna buy with taxpayer monies
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Orange = Limestone quarries on the Giza plateau. Dashed line = harbor facilities, their exact position is not known

There is a building in the harbor of Khafre which is about 70m long and there seemed to be two piers there. The stone blocks from Tura and Aswan were brought here on the Nile channel. The walls of the channel and the harbor were probably used to moor ships transporting materials like wood, ropes and other building materials.

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those are all of the quarries they had available and what they mined from each. The granite came from Aswan, toward the bottom. The good limestone came from Tura, up near Giza (15 km from site).
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I'm thinking there was a giant limestone deposit right there and they carved it into blocks right where it sat and dug out the sand around it.
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Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:36 pm additionally, i think almost all theories on how they were built, coincide with the idea that the site was chosen because of its location to the Nile and in all the theories the Nile was used to transport the blocks from the quarry site to where the pyramids were built. Most other theories assume they were transported by raft. This is the first to say they may have been "floated" with the stones submerged.
Very interesting. My opinion, just brute force up earthen ramps by a 100,000 workforce over 30 years. No way to know unless you had a time machine to witness the work. What blows me away, they were built, what, 5,500 years ago (whatever date) and were the tallest man made structures on Earth until 5.400 years later. WTF? How was that even possible back then?
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Maybe they used trained dinosaurs
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Wut wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:19 pm Maybe they used trained dinosaurs
Satan buried dinosaur bones to mislead you my son
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CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:49 pm Considering they align perfectly with a constellation I doubt they said hey Horus just put that rock over there
Damn good point that wasn't discovered until last century. I don't think it was a constellation but a solar solstice or some astronomical alignment that was the reason they built it and buried their Pharaohs there for the trip to the afterlife. Just a stunning achievement from a culture thousands of years ago.
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Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:07 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:58 pm
Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:56 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:38 pm
Flumper wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:36 pm additionally, i think almost all theories on how they were built, coincide with the idea that the site was chosen because of its location to the Nile and in all the theories the Nile was used to transport the blocks from the quarry site to where the pyramids were built. Most other theories assume they were transported by raft. This is the first to say they may have been "floated" with the stones submerged.
I though the pyramids were built in the quarry and the only stones brought onto the site via the river were the giant ones in the roof structure
shit, man, you are getting over my head on this. I don't think the quarry for the limestone is immediately onsite, but maybe it is. I know they had to bring the granite stones from several miles away.
I'm pretty sure there is limestone quarry right next to it, the granite traveled
i was just reading. Yeah, you are right, some of the limestone was quarried on site. Also f the really good limestone (they didn't go into detail on how much from where) came from a quarry about 15 km away. And the granite came from about 700 km away.
Yeah, CQ was accurate. They had to float those granite blocks on boats down the Nile.
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CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:24 pm
Wut wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:19 pm Maybe they used trained dinosaurs
Satan buried dinosaur bones to mislead you my son
My theory is supported by the historical documents.
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