So Much Winning

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[Biker]

Yep, time to cut spending. Defense, entitlements, and immigration costs. You game, faggot?

[AnalHamster]

Whatever that was didn'tb display but if you're trying to pretend your oil and gas prices weren't affected by chumps abject failure and humiliation of the US you're delusional or lying.

How do you think this defeat has played out for the US? Good war?

Of course gas prices were affected here. But as you people said in the early weeks of the Ukraine war, isnt it worth it to have higher gas prices in order to fight evil?

Defeat is strong. Slight American advantage is more accurate. Their military is in shambles, as is their manufacturing infrastructure. Did I like this war? I hated it, and said so from the gitgo.

Defeat is clearly what it is, their military has retained about 70% of pre war capability and can rapidly rebuild, from your own intel assessments. They're in control of Hormuz and planning to charge 'fees', and able to close it any time because America has demonstrated impotence, couldn't defend bases in the region, couldn't bomb to victory and didn't dare to invade. All this 'deal' really is is an extension to the ceasefire with an agreement to try and agree on something down the line, in return for which Iran is getting 12bn for starters. All this because chump tore up the JCPOA because he's a petulant, ignorant moron and Obama got the deal. Absolute best case scenario now is reinstating some form of that deal on worse terms, and that's looking unlikely since chump is too embarrassed to even admit what is in the MOU at this point. He's clearly just kicked the can down the road intending to try and get Iran to agree to what they've flat out refused.

[Biker]

Seems you cannot grasp the actual geopolitical implications of this 'fee'. Who do you think is paying that? You think its us? That funny, considering we dont get our oil from there.

China, India, and the Eurocucks lost in this, especially China. For years, China has been getting Iranian oil on the cheap. Now, their price just went up, a lot. Trump leveled the market, not just with oil, but with all other downstream products. Sure, the UK will have to pay more in gas, but they can always come to us

So 'clear defeat'? Your Trump hate is showing