Regretting chump yet?

[Biker]

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

Exactly

[Animal]

Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

Trump's handling of the Strait is almost comical at this point abd definitely defies logic. Yet, we will still have to hear how brilliant his moves are by his sycophants.

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

I am not trying to support any of what has been done, but lets clear up the "why's" of what trump did. Iran blocked the strait and then started letting friendly nations move through if they paid a $1 per barrel toll. I think I heard that was around $2 million per tanker. Trump told them they had to open the strait to ALL tankers and ZERO tolls. Iran held firm.

So, Trump blockaded the strait and will not allow anyone that paid a toll to proceed. Anyone that did not pay a toll can proceed. Trump is basically making sure that Iran doesn't collect any tolls. The obvous drawback to this is it puts our military machinery in easy target distance of a drone or mine or IED style attack. And its going to ultimately end up in a showdown with China, russia, japan, etc.

[Who]

Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

Trump's handling of the Strait is almost comical at this point abd definitely defies logic. Yet, we will still have to hear how brilliant his moves are by his sycophants.

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

I am not trying to support any of what has been done, but lets clear up the "why's" of what trump did. Iran blocked the strait and then started letting friendly nations move through if they paid a $1 per barrel toll. I think I heard that was around $2 million per tanker. Trump told them they had to open the strait to ALL tankers and ZERO tolls. Iran held firm.

So, Trump blockaded the strait and will not allow anyone that paid a toll to proceed. Anyone that did not pay a toll can proceed. Trump is basically making sure that Iran doesn't collect any tolls. The obvous drawback to this is it puts our military machinery in easy target distance of a drone or mine or IED style attack. And its going to ultimately end up in a showdown with China, russia, japan, etc.

So basically World War Three

[Animal]

Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

Trump's handling of the Strait is almost comical at this point abd definitely defies logic. Yet, we will still have to hear how brilliant his moves are by his sycophants.

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

I am not trying to support any of what has been done, but lets clear up the "why's" of what trump did. Iran blocked the strait and then started letting friendly nations move through if they paid a $1 per barrel toll. I think I heard that was around $2 million per tanker. Trump told them they had to open the strait to ALL tankers and ZERO tolls. Iran held firm.

So, Trump blockaded the strait and will not allow anyone that paid a toll to proceed. Anyone that did not pay a toll can proceed. Trump is basically making sure that Iran doesn't collect any tolls. The obvous drawback to this is it puts our military machinery in easy target distance of a drone or mine or IED style attack. And its going to ultimately end up in a showdown with China, russia, japan, etc.

So basically World War Three

no. but the real harm to iran is insignificant to the harm to the countries needing tht oil.

[CHEEZY17]

Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

Trump's handling of the Strait is almost comical at this point abd definitely defies logic. Yet, we will still have to hear how brilliant his moves are by his sycophants.

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

I am not trying to support any of what has been done, but lets clear up the "why's" of what trump did. Iran blocked the strait and then started letting friendly nations move through if they paid a $1 per barrel toll. I think I heard that was around $2 million per tanker. Trump told them they had to open the strait to ALL tankers and ZERO tolls. Iran held firm.

So, Trump blockaded the strait and will not allow anyone that paid a toll to proceed. Anyone that did not pay a toll can proceed. Trump is basically making sure that Iran doesn't collect any tolls. The obvous drawback to this is it puts our military machinery in easy target distance of a drone or mine or IED style attack. And its going to ultimately end up in a showdown with China, russia, japan, etc.

So basically World War Three

no. but the real harm to iran is insignificant to the harm to the countries needing tht oil.

Not sure of the accuracy of this but I've heard American ports are going gangbusters right now because of this.

[Animal]

Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

Trump's handling of the Strait is almost comical at this point abd definitely defies logic. Yet, we will still have to hear how brilliant his moves are by his sycophants.

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

I am not trying to support any of what has been done, but lets clear up the "why's" of what trump did. Iran blocked the strait and then started letting friendly nations move through if they paid a $1 per barrel toll. I think I heard that was around $2 million per tanker. Trump told them they had to open the strait to ALL tankers and ZERO tolls. Iran held firm.

So, Trump blockaded the strait and will not allow anyone that paid a toll to proceed. Anyone that did not pay a toll can proceed. Trump is basically making sure that Iran doesn't collect any tolls. The obvous drawback to this is it puts our military machinery in easy target distance of a drone or mine or IED style attack. And its going to ultimately end up in a showdown with China, russia, japan, etc.

So basically World War Three

no. but the real harm to iran is insignificant to the harm to the countries needing tht oil.

Not sure of the accuracy of this but I've heard American ports are going gangbusters right now because of this.

i don't doubt that. I'm sure that the texas oil companies are blowing up with profits right now. The problem is that, other than trickle down from their spending, its not really a concession to the US. These guy's prices go up as the world's prices go up. So the same oil that we were buying from them at $60 a barrel a few months ago is now $105 a barrel. And that $45 increase is just profits. And those profits are probably double what they look like because they are probably doubling production right now. Its a win for those oil companies but its going to be a major hit to inflation numbers coming in our the next several months. This won't reconcile any time soon regardless of when the war ends.

[Animal]

I am probably way off base here, but i'm not so sure that putting Jared Kushner and his yamaka, at the negotiating table with the Iranians is a good move.

[BombaySapphire]

I fully expect to wake up one of these mornings and WW3 will have broken out

[Biker]

I am probably way off base here, but i'm not so sure that putting Jared Kushner and his yamaka, at the negotiating table with the Iranians is a good move.

Seriously.

[CHEEZY17]

I am probably way off base here, but i'm not so sure that putting Jared Kushner and his yamaka, at the negotiating table with the Iranians is a good move.

Seriously.

I've got quite a few Middle Eastern customers that own businesses and during the course of our conversations they have all said the same thing when the topic came up (employees and hiring): they only hire relatives because in their eyes they are the only people they can trust. Not saying I agree or disagree with this.
I suspect this is also why Trump leans so heavily on Kushner. In Trump's eyes he believes he can trust him to the probable detriment of sending someone more experienced and less problematic.

[Animal]

I am probably way off base here, but i'm not so sure that putting Jared Kushner and his yamaka, at the negotiating table with the Iranians is a good move.

Seriously.

I've got quite a few Middle Eastern customers that own businesses and during the course of our conversations they have all said the same thing when the topic came up (employees and hiring): they only hire relatives because in their eyes they are the only people they can trust. Not saying I agree or disagree with this.
I suspect this is also why Trump leans so heavily on Kushner. In Trump's eyes he believes he can trust him to the probable detriment of sending someone more experienced and less problematic.

I can certainly see why middle eastern people would have trust issues. As a group, I have never seen a more untrustworthy, lying, underhanded bunch in my life. I will not do business with them. And, I know I am prejudice, but to me negotiating with them is a 100% waste of time.

[AnalHamster]

Chump fired the experts with knowledge of the region language and history, and hired his son in law instead because chump is incompetent and unfit for governance. There's really no more to it than that. Y'all spent decades building up expertise in dealing with this region, chump is just too stupid to understand that

[Burn1dwn]

Chump fired the experts with knowledge of the region language and history, and hired his son in law instead because chump is incompetent and unfit for governance. There's really no more to it than that. Y'all spent decades building up expertise in dealing with this region, chump is just too stupid to understand that

Kush is being sent into these negotiations for one reason. To ensure the Trump families best interests are factored in to any potential "deals" made between countries. Aside from his lack of experience or expertise, his business ties to other countries involved with the conflict should exclude him from being at the table.

[Cassandros]

Stopped negotiations you say?

US, Iran say they have agreed to a two-week ceasefire

Iran’s Supreme National Security Council says it has accepted a two-week ceasefire in the war. Its statement said it would negotiate with the United States in Islamabad beginning Friday.

https://apnews.com/live/iran-war-israel ... 04-07-2026

Yes, timeline appears to be they offer 10 point plan trump rejects, then trump sends deranged surrender or die tweets and they call his bluff, then trump tacos again and offers a ceasefire through Pakistan based around the same 10 point plan. Now you just have to negotiate how high they can set the tolls on their new territory.

It always amuses me how you present conjecture as fact...

I personally see a cease fire as a win for everyone. But, you do you, homie.

A ceasefire is great news.

We are back to where we were 7 weeks ago, before we attacked Iran in the first place. Negotiating w/ the Iranians. Only they have the Strait as a card that they weren't playing before.

Of course Trump is calling this a victory.

That's not conjecture. It's a fact.

If we are going to be completely honest --> the Strait was Iran's only card and its not a very good one.

Blockading against Iran was a wise strategic move.

Iran's actually needs it more than the rest of the world.

[AnalHamster]

Iran can hold out because their government doesn't give a shit if the people suffer. China and Russia will probably prop it up if necessary to prevent total collapse, Russia benefits directly as their oil revenue has doubled, and China understands it's in the long term interests to cripple America. Iran will be happy to stick it out for the midterms if the republicans don't find their balls and invoke the 25th.

[BombaySapphire]

Now he's opening up Hormuz again.

Open, closed.
Open, closed
Open, closed.

Rinse and repeat

[BombaySapphire]

Does NATO really need the US though (aside from fighter jet purchases)??

[CHEEZY17]

The blockade is working (nothing in or out of Iranian ports) and now there are reports that since Iran felt it was a good idea to shoot missiles at neighboring countries, which it turns out they don't really like, those countries have decided to open up the Iranian bank accounts they do business with. This will allow the possible forfeiture or halting of any payments to the Iranian regime cutting off their financial legs. This on top of the belief that the Iranian economy was already on its last legs.

I suppose this leads to the question of how long and how much will the hardline Islamo-fascist regime let their people suffer?

U.S. naval blockade on Iran will trigger a currency devaluation spiral and hyperinflation, potentially ending the war more quickly, analyst says
https://fortune.com/2026/04/13/us-naval ... l-revenue/

But Iran is winning.

[Animal]

The blockade is working (nothing in or out of Iranian ports) and now there are reports that since Iran felt it was a good idea to shoot missiles at neighboring countries, which it turns out they don't really like, those countries have decided to open up the Iranian bank accounts they do business with. This will allow the possible forfeiture or halting of any payments to the Iranian regime cutting off their financial legs. This on top of the belief that the Iranian economy was already on its last legs.

I suppose this leads to the question of how long and how much will the hardline Islamo-fascist regime let their people suffer?

U.S. naval blockade on Iran will trigger a currency devaluation spiral and hyperinflation, potentially ending the war more quickly, analyst says
https://fortune.com/2026/04/13/us-naval ... l-revenue/

But Iran is winning.

You have to remember that the people running Iran don't give 2 cents about the people or how much they suffer. All they want is to come out of this with control of the country. Anything that leaves them in control is considered a win to them.

[CHEEZY17]

The blockade is working (nothing in or out of Iranian ports) and now there are reports that since Iran felt it was a good idea to shoot missiles at neighboring countries, which it turns out they don't really like, those countries have decided to open up the Iranian bank accounts they do business with. This will allow the possible forfeiture or halting of any payments to the Iranian regime cutting off their financial legs. This on top of the belief that the Iranian economy was already on its last legs.

I suppose this leads to the question of how long and how much will the hardline Islamo-fascist regime let their people suffer?

U.S. naval blockade on Iran will trigger a currency devaluation spiral and hyperinflation, potentially ending the war more quickly, analyst says
https://fortune.com/2026/04/13/us-naval ... l-revenue/

But Iran is winning.

You have to remember that the people running Iran don't give 2 cents about the people or how much they suffer. All they want is to come out of this with control of the country. Anything that leaves them in control is considered a win to them.

Of course, which is all the more reason why the world and the Iranian people will be better off without them. This scenario ultimately, in theory, leads to the Iranian people revolting and "(hopefully) doing our work for us.

[Animal]

The blockade is working (nothing in or out of Iranian ports) and now there are reports that since Iran felt it was a good idea to shoot missiles at neighboring countries, which it turns out they don't really like, those countries have decided to open up the Iranian bank accounts they do business with. This will allow the possible forfeiture or halting of any payments to the Iranian regime cutting off their financial legs. This on top of the belief that the Iranian economy was already on its last legs.

I suppose this leads to the question of how long and how much will the hardline Islamo-fascist regime let their people suffer?

U.S. naval blockade on Iran will trigger a currency devaluation spiral and hyperinflation, potentially ending the war more quickly, analyst says
https://fortune.com/2026/04/13/us-naval ... l-revenue/

But Iran is winning.

You have to remember that the people running Iran don't give 2 cents about the people or how much they suffer. All they want is to come out of this with control of the country. Anything that leaves them in control is considered a win to them.

Of course, which is all the more reason why the world and the Iranian people will be better off without them. This scenario ultimately, in theory, leads to the Iranian people revolting and "(hopefully) doing our work for us.

I kind of think that was the thought going into this. I got memories of Dick Cheney and him thinking the Iraqi people were going to revolt and do the work for us in Iraq.

[Animal]

if this works out like its showing signs now, then our greatest allies in all of this have been the mid east countries, not NATO. Churchill would be very disappointed.

[Biker]

if this works out like its showing signs now, then our greatest allies in all of this have been the mid east countries, not NATO. Churchill would be very disappointed.

Yep. At this point, NATO is an antiquated idea. Time for us to get out and let the Euroweenies fend for themselves for once

[AnalHamster]

Are chumpers capable of understanding that NATO is a defensive alliance? It was literally the whole and only point of it, written right there in the charter. It was never intended for y'all electing a loony, declaring a pointless and losing war in the middle east that he won't even admit is a war because it would then be illegal. Chumps Epstein war is fuck all to do with NATO.

Good fucking riddance to all US bases in NATO countries and all pretence of US power being projected around the world which relied on those bases. All pretty meaningless after your buffoon threatened to invade Greenland anyway.

[Burn1dwn]

if this works out like its showing signs now, then our greatest allies in all of this have been the mid east countries, not NATO. Churchill would be very disappointed.

Is it that hard to believe that Middle Eastern countries have more reason to pick a side during a dispute in the Middle East than European countries do?

Israel has deals w/ Russia to stay out of the Ukraine war for goodness sake. So what are we really talking about here?

Talk about spinning a narrative.