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stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:40 pm
by fouts
Jagger still hanging in there at 75----and the band out lasted the sissy's Beatles....noticeably better with Brian Jones but still had a sound all their own over the decades

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:09 pm
by Reservoir Dog
They've got a couple of songs I like. Other than that, Meh.

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:28 pm
by Stapes
Are they as good as the band Live? cause somebody told me they're the bees knees

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:33 pm
by fouts
they produced and toured for decades unlike today,a band gets 1 or 2 hits over couple years then wind up as a warmup for a juggler at free oustside concerts. Most hip-hop groups come to mind as low staying power,that is unless they're killing each other like Tupac and Biggy Small--thats entertainment.

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:36 pm
by fouts
Stapes wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:28 pm Are they as good as the band Live? cause somebody told me they're the bees knees
yeah, saw them live in Germany twice, no hint of lip sync or theatrics just music=loud

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:56 pm
by spudoc
Stapes wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:28 pm Are they as good as the band Live? cause somebody told me they're the bees knees
Somebody lied. The Stones are, in my estimation, worthy of "the Greatest Rock n Roll Band in the World" title but only when it comes to producing great albums. As a live group they range from pretty passable to horrid. Mostly it stems from Keith and Ronnie being crazy fucked up during the 80s and 90s. They were decent live in the early seventies but that was mostly due to the greatness of Mick Taylor.

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:08 pm
by Stapes
My inquiry may have been misinterpreted ...lol.
Not a live band.
The band Live.

Nevermind it isn't funny if nobody gets the joke LOL

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:12 pm
by spudoc
Stapes wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:08 pm My inquiry may have been misinterpreted ...lol.
Not a live band.
The band Live.

Nevermind it isn't funny if nobody gets the joke LOL
My bad. I completely misread what you had posted.
Your joke was hilarious.

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:16 pm
by fouts
spudoc wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:56 pm
Stapes wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:28 pm Are they as good as the band Live? cause somebody told me they're the bees knees
Somebody lied. The Stones are, in my estimation, worthy of "the Greatest Rock n Roll Band in the World" title but only when it comes to producing great albums. As a live group they range from pretty passable to horrid. Mostly it stems from Keith and Ronnie being crazy fucked up during the 80s and 90s. They were decent live in the early seventies but that was mostly due to the greatness of Mick Taylor.
what concept 'live' ever is as good as a recording on a high end stereo? I guess few. Its all about feeling the music pound on your chest and being nearly or as fucked up as the band. Although Pink Floyd at Joe Robbie came real close to 'great live' concert --but who knows, probably was a recording

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:29 pm
by spudoc
fouts wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:16 pm
spudoc wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:56 pm
Stapes wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:28 pm Are they as good as the band Live? cause somebody told me they're the bees knees
Somebody lied. The Stones are, in my estimation, worthy of "the Greatest Rock n Roll Band in the World" title but only when it comes to producing great albums. As a live group they range from pretty passable to horrid. Mostly it stems from Keith and Ronnie being crazy fucked up during the 80s and 90s. They were decent live in the early seventies but that was mostly due to the greatness of Mick Taylor.
what concept 'live' ever is as good as a recording on a high end stereo? I guess few. Its all about feeling the music pound on your chest and being nearly or as fucked up as the band. Although Pink Floyd at Joe Robbie came real close to 'great live' concert --but who knows, probably was a recording
There are bands that absolutely kill it live. And I don't need a note for note reproduction of a song in concert. But the Stones (and let me reiterate, I consider them the best band in history) have never been a good band live. Most of the live recordings from the 70's that you can access on youtube have been heavily remixed and overdubbed.

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:41 pm
by fouts
i agree---i saw them in a concert hall -about 1500 people,,made a difference compared to 15000 people in a stadium...

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:48 pm
by spudoc
fouts wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:41 pm i agree---i saw them in a concert hall -about 1500 people,,made a difference compared to 15000 people in a stadium...
I’ll give you that, I’ve only ever seen them in stadiums. As a rule I hate stadium shows

Re: stones...

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:05 pm
by Reservoir Dog
I was a concert fanatic for about 30 years. I couldn't even guess how many I've been to.

The best live bands I've ever seen...

Rush
Tom Cochrane & Red Rider
Roger Waters
The Tragically Hip
Bob Seger
AC/DC
John Fogerty

The best concert I ever saw: Aerosmith backed up by Nazareth (it took me 3 days to recover and I didn't have a voice for 4)

The worst concert I ever saw: (tie) The Cars (beyond bad) and Bob Dylan (I actually left the concert halfway through)

Re: stones...

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:19 am
by Burn1dwn
spudoc wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:56 pm
Stapes wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:28 pm Are they as good as the band Live? cause somebody told me they're the bees knees
Somebody lied. The Stones are, in my estimation, worthy of "the Greatest Rock n Roll Band in the World" title but only when it comes to producing great albums.
I can listen to 'Their Satanic Majesties Request' in its entirety. But have to pull single songs to listen to on their other albums.

Do you have any suggestions if I decide to give their full albums another try. Need to get my money's worth for my Spotify subscription.

Re: stones...

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:28 am
by Geist
RIP Stonez

Re: stones...

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:37 am
by spudoc
Reservoir Dog wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:05 pm I was a concert fanatic for about 30 years. I couldn't even guess how many I've been to.

The best live bands I've ever seen...

Rush
Tom Cochrane & Red Rider
Roger Waters
The Tragically Hip
Bob Seger
AC/DC
John Fogerty

The best concert I ever saw: Aerosmith backed up by Nazareth (it took me 3 days to recover and I didn't have a voice for 4)

The worst concert I ever saw: (tie) The Cars (beyond bad) and Bob Dylan (I actually left the concert halfway through)
Years ago my college roommate went to a Grateful Dead show. The Dead was touring with Tom Petty and Bob Dylan. He said it was a toss up as to who was the most fucked up on stage between Dylan and Jerry Garcia. He loved the Dead and still almost walked out of that concert

Re: stones...

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:44 am
by spudoc
Burn1dwn wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:19 am
spudoc wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:56 pm
Stapes wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:28 pm Are they as good as the band Live? cause somebody told me they're the bees knees
Somebody lied. The Stones are, in my estimation, worthy of "the Greatest Rock n Roll Band in the World" title but only when it comes to producing great albums.
I can listen to 'Their Satanic Majesties Request' in its entirety. But have to pull single songs to listen to on their other albums.

Do you have any suggestions if I decide to give their full albums another try. Need to get my money's worth for my Spotify subscription.
I’m not a huge fan of the Brian Jones years so anything before 1968 is just okay. Let It Bleed and Sticky Fingers are both fantastic albums. If you take a liking to those then Exile on Mainstreet will knock you out. Beggars Banquet does a nice job of filling out the Mick Taylor years. (Chronologically it would be Beggars, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers and then Exile)

Re: stones...

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:05 am
by Burn1dwn
spudoc wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:44 am
Burn1dwn wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:19 am
spudoc wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:56 pm
Stapes wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:28 pm Are they as good as the band Live? cause somebody told me they're the bees knees
Somebody lied. The Stones are, in my estimation, worthy of "the Greatest Rock n Roll Band in the World" title but only when it comes to producing great albums.
I can listen to 'Their Satanic Majesties Request' in its entirety. But have to pull single songs to listen to on their other albums.

Do you have any suggestions if I decide to give their full albums another try. Need to get my money's worth for my Spotify subscription.
I’m not a huge fan of the Brian Jones years so anything before 1968 is just okay. Let It Bleed and Sticky Fingers are both fantastic albums. If you take a liking to those then Exile on Mainstreet will knock you out. Beggars Banquet does a nice job of filling out the Mick Taylor years. (Chronologically it would be Beggars, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers and then Exile)
Awesome. Thanks.