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Johnson: We’re Not A Democracy, We’re A “Biblical” Republic And Separation Of Church And State Isn’t Real
https://www.joemygod.com/2023/10/johnso ... -isnt-real
"You know, we don’t live in a democracy because a democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what’s for dinner. OK? It’s not just majority rule. It’s a constitutional republic. The founders set that up because they followed the biblical admonition of what a civil society is supposed to look like. What’s happened, Alex, over the last 60 or 70 years, is that our generation has been convinced that there is a separation of church and state. Most people think that that’s part of the Constitution, but it’s not. Remember, I’m a constitutional lawyer.” – Newly elected House Speaker Mike Johnson, in a 2016 interview.
A "constitutional" lawyer?! :?
In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes:
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.
Jefferson was describing to the Baptists that the United States Bill of Rights prevents the establishment of a national church, and in so doing they did not have to fear government interference in their right to expressions of religious conscience. The Bill of Rights, adopted in 1791 as ten amendments to the Constitution of the United States, was one of the earliest political expressions of religious freedom. Others were the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, also authored by Jefferson and adopted by Virginia in 1786; and the French Declaration of the Rights of the Man and of the Citizen of 1789.

The metaphor "a wall of separation between Church and State" used by Jefferson in the above quoted letter became a part of the First Amendment jurisprudence of the U.S. Supreme Court. It was first used by Chief Justice Morrison Waite in Reynolds v. United States (1878). American historian George Bancroft was consulted by Waite in the Reynolds case regarding the views on establishment by the framers of the U.S. constitution. Bancroft advised Waite to consult Jefferson. Waite then discovered the above quoted letter in a library after skimming through the index to Jefferson's collected works according to historian Don Drakeman.
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How about you include his entire comments in that interview instead of cherry picking out the part that you want to propagandize.
“What’s happened, Alex, over the last 60, 70 years, is that our generation has been convinced that there’s a separation of church and state. You heard that term all the time. And most people think that that’s part of the Constitution, but it’s not – remember, I’m a … constitutional lawyer.”

“Now, what we always point out is that the phrase comes from a letter, it was a private letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, 1801. They write a letter and they say, ‘Mr. President, we’re so concerned that the government is going to come in and encroach upon our religious freedom, our freedom in the church to worship and to pray and to share the gospel, to share the truth as we understand and live in accordance with the dictates of our own conscience. Mr. President, what can you tell us? Is this a legitimate concern?’

“So he writes back and he says, ‘Oh, listen, listen, my friends, my fellow countrymen, you have no concern, because we’ve given you the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights begins with religious freedom as the first and most fundamental liberty that we acknowledge that was granted by God, the right of conscience, the right to believe what you will, and to worship and pass it on to your children.'”

“He says, ‘Don’t worry there’s an impregnable wall of separation between church and state.’ In other words, the government is not going to encroach on the church and tell you what to believe or how to worship or take away your property or your rights or your right to get together and do and perpetuate your faith. And so he says, ‘Don’t worry, the First Amendment is like a shield to protect people of faith.’ But here’s what’s happened over the last several decades, that shield has been turned into a weapon to be used against people of faith.”

Johnson then portrays those who support the separation of church as condescending, and says, “so now they’ve convinced our generation because they say it enough, people begin to believe it and say, ‘Oh, no, there’s a difference between your religious life and real life,’ right? So they say, ‘on Sunday mornings, you guys get together, y’all go you know, go pray, you worship, you go to your little church building there. You get in your safe four walls, and you do your warm, fuzzy religious thing. You do your touchy-feely, emotional, all the hand-raising and praising – you do all that stuff on Sunday. But don’t bring those ideas into the public square. Don’t bring those ideas Monday morning to the workplace at the water-cooler, don’t do that because you got to keep that separate over here,’ having heard separation of church and state.”

“Well, now wait a minute, the founders said religion and morality are the indispensable support to the whole Republic. Now you’re telling me I can’t even bring it in just one argument in the public policy arena? That’s crazy. It’s anathema. It’s, it’s opposite. It’s the opposite of how we were founded as a country and I’m telling you we’re losing those foundations at our peril.”
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Animal wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:15 pm How about you include his entire comments in that interview instead of cherry picking out the part that you want to propagandize.
“What’s happened, Alex, over the last 60, 70 years, is that our generation has been convinced that there’s a separation of church and state. You heard that term all the time. And most people think that that’s part of the Constitution, but it’s not – remember, I’m a … constitutional lawyer.”

“Now, what we always point out is that the phrase comes from a letter, it was a private letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, 1801. They write a letter and they say, ‘Mr. President, we’re so concerned that the government is going to come in and encroach upon our religious freedom, our freedom in the church to worship and to pray and to share the gospel, to share the truth as we understand and live in accordance with the dictates of our own conscience. Mr. President, what can you tell us? Is this a legitimate concern?’

“So he writes back and he says, ‘Oh, listen, listen, my friends, my fellow countrymen, you have no concern, because we’ve given you the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights begins with religious freedom as the first and most fundamental liberty that we acknowledge that was granted by God, the right of conscience, the right to believe what you will, and to worship and pass it on to your children.'”

“He says, ‘Don’t worry there’s an impregnable wall of separation between church and state.’ In other words, the government is not going to encroach on the church and tell you what to believe or how to worship or take away your property or your rights or your right to get together and do and perpetuate your faith. And so he says, ‘Don’t worry, the First Amendment is like a shield to protect people of faith.’ But here’s what’s happened over the last several decades, that shield has been turned into a weapon to be used against people of faith.”

Johnson then portrays those who support the separation of church as condescending, and says, “so now they’ve convinced our generation because they say it enough, people begin to believe it and say, ‘Oh, no, there’s a difference between your religious life and real life,’ right? So they say, ‘on Sunday mornings, you guys get together, y’all go you know, go pray, you worship, you go to your little church building there. You get in your safe four walls, and you do your warm, fuzzy religious thing. You do your touchy-feely, emotional, all the hand-raising and praising – you do all that stuff on Sunday. But don’t bring those ideas into the public square. Don’t bring those ideas Monday morning to the workplace at the water-cooler, don’t do that because you got to keep that separate over here,’ having heard separation of church and state.”

“Well, now wait a minute, the founders said religion and morality are the indispensable support to the whole Republic. Now you’re telling me I can’t even bring it in just one argument in the public policy arena? That’s crazy. It’s anathema. It’s, it’s opposite. It’s the opposite of how we were founded as a country and I’m telling you we’re losing those foundations at our peril.”
Nice try.

Johnson's a creationist, election denying, insurrectionist. Perfect encapsulation of today's Republican Party.
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saltydog wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:18 pm Nice try.

Johnson's a creationist, election denying, insurrectionist. Perfect encapsulation of today's Republican Party.
well, we know you didn't read it. so your comments mean jack shit.
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So the fear mongering has started already.
Has anyone said hes worse than Hitler yet?
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:23 pm So the fear mongering has started already.
Has anyone said hes worse than Hitler yet?
for this brilliant plan by the democrats to work, he only has to be better than McCarthy, the stock market has to go up around 20%, a budget has to get passed in the next 2 weeks, and Biden's approval ratings have to stop crashing. Other than that, it seems to have been a solid plan.
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Geez, look who's celebrating...

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saltydog wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:38 pm Geez, look who's celebrating...

has he sent you a personal thank you yet? :lol:
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Animal wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:41 pm
saltydog wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:38 pm Geez, look who's celebrating...

has he sent you a personal thank you yet? :lol:
Why would he? I'm older than 18 years old and a male.
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SCOOP: Mike Johnson Urged a Religious Test for Politicians

The elevation of Rep. Mike Johnson (R-La.) to House speaker was a shocker. Not since John McCain picked Sarah Palin to be his running mate has a heretofore little-known politician been lifted so quickly to a position of prominence and importance. Though Johnson now is second in the line of presidential succession, we’re still finding out basic and important facts about him and how he sees the world. This includes his alarming record as a hardcore conservative cultural warrior, motivated by a Christian fundamentalist belief, who has fiercely opposed gay rights (comparing homosexuality to pedophilia), called for a total nationwide ban on abortion, proposed the end of no-fault divorce, and urged a return to “18th century values.” One more significant thing I’ve discovered is that Johnson appears to believe in a religious litmus test for politicians.
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Ohhs nose, another boogeyman for the leftists and their media allies. Let the pearl clutching commence!
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I, for one, would like to thank the Democrats for making Mike Johnson the new Speaker. Good choice, guys.
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Animal wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:35 pm I, for one, would like to thank the Democrats for making Mike Johnson the new Speaker. Good choice, guys.
Democrats and the MAGA house members make a swell team!
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Biker wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:29 pm Ohhs nose, another boogeyman for the leftists and their media allies. Let the pearl clutching commence!
Some of them are starting to plead, or have pled guilty.

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So when will this Christian Caliphate get underway? I've been waiting a while
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Biker wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:48 pm So when will this Christian Caliphate get underway? I've been waiting a while
I cant wait for the New Inquisition! :lol:
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Uh oh. Rolling Stone just dug up a career ending whopper on Johnson. Looks like his career is pretty much over now.

He doesnt watch porn.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:13 am
Biker wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:48 pm So when will this Christian Caliphate get underway? I've been waiting a while
I cant wait for the New Inquisition! :lol:
Remember that Jesus hiding behind a tree meme that I posted all the time That was literally 15 years ago
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Looks like JDS is going to be as popular as TDS.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:14 am Uh oh. Rolling Stone just dug up a career ending whopper on Johnson. Looks like his career is pretty much over now.

He doesnt watch porn.
This isn't an Onion article? Who the fuck needs an accountability partner to stay off porn sites? WTF?
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How's the Christian Caliphate coming along?
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Biker wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:56 pm How's the Christian Caliphate coming along?
Maybe Johnson is going to roll out the new mandatory church attendance, daily prayer requirements and national dress code on Christmas day?
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How is that budget coming?
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