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I've read that they use fiber in the street but drop it down to coaxial cable running to house. Doesn't that create a huge bottle neck and screw up the speeds? What say you?

8-TrackJones wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:39 pm I've read that they use fiber in the street but drop it down to coaxial cable running to house. Doesn't that create a huge bottle neck and screw up the speeds. What say you?

That's exactly what happens. Coax can't handle the bandwidth that fiber does. To get the most out of it you need fiber all the way to your modem.

BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:42 pm

8-TrackJones wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:39 pm I've read that they use fiber in the street but drop it down to coaxial cable running to house. Doesn't that create a huge bottle neck and screw up the speeds. What say you?

If you have 1 GB FIOS it is fiber all the way to the house. I have comcast and I get 250 Mbps over copper. What provider are you using?

Mediacom

A decade ago, we wrote about how Verizon had made an agreement in Pennsylvania in 1994 that it would wire up the state with fiber optic cables to every home in exchange for tax breaks equalling $2.1 billion. In exchange for such a massive tax break, Verizon promised that all homes and businesses would have access to 45Mbps symmetrical fiber by 2015. By 2004, the deal was that 50% of all homes were supposed to have that. In reality, 0% did, and some people started asking for their money back. That never happened, and it appeared that Verizon learned a valuable lesson: it can flat out lie to governments, promise 100% fiber coverage in exchange for subsidies, then not deliver, and no one will do a damn thing about it.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131 ... vers.shtml

Article was written almost 6 years ago, still have copper

BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:51 pm Just did a quick search. They are pushing 1 Gbps over copper.

Yes, they are. Mostly thanks to digital compression technology. (and it sounds really good in the sales pitch) But make no mistake, coax equals signal loss.

Up here in Canada all new housing and apartment buildings are now being pre-wired with fiber instead of coax.

BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:51 pm Just did a quick search. They are pushing 1 Gbps over copper.

Yup. You don't need fiber going into your house, just a clean signal.

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:59 pm

BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:51 pm Just did a quick search. They are pushing 1 Gbps over copper.

Yup. You don't need fiber going into your house, just a clean signal.

That's an old wives tale.
What's "cleaner" than fiber?

I was a FiOS installer in new jersey. Fiber is provisioned to the home where it terminates into an ONT (optical network terminal) where the digital signal is converted to analog for phone, rf for tv/video, internet WAN is provided via ethernet over Cat-6 wire homerun to router location. Internet to television boxs for guide and info is sent over the houses coax cables via what is called a MoCA signal so a coaxial cable has to be run back to the main splitter from the router. This is a Verizon product.
AT&T (U-Verse) tried to cut cost and ran fiber to a hub and then sent out their signal over the existing phone cables like a DSL signal on steroids. I don't think it's as good of a product.

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:50 pm

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:59 pm

BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:51 pm Just did a quick search. They are pushing 1 Gbps over copper.

Yup. You don't need fiber going into your house, just a clean signal.

That's an old wives tale.
What's "cleaner" than fiber?

Cleaner meaning no ingress in the line. You can get fiber speeds over cable with the right modem, but the tech is still new and finicky so it typically needs new lines to reach full speed.

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:55 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:50 pm

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:59 pm

BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:51 pm Just did a quick search. They are pushing 1 Gbps over copper.

Yup. You don't need fiber going into your house, just a clean signal.

That's an old wives tale.
What's "cleaner" than fiber?

Cleaner meaning no ingress in the line.

I know what "clean" means. No damage, ingress or egress.
What about signal loss over distance? What about the diameter of the copper? Are you suggesting that copper is as "clean" as fiber?

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:01 pm

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:55 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:50 pm

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:59 pm

BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:51 pm Just did a quick search. They are pushing 1 Gbps over copper.

Yup. You don't need fiber going into your house, just a clean signal.

That's an old wives tale.
What's "cleaner" than fiber?

Cleaner meaning no ingress in the line.

I know what "clean" means. No damage, ingress or egress.
What about signal loss over distance? What about the diameter of the copper? Are you suggesting that copper is as "clean" as fiber?

No, it's not as good and signal attenuation is definitely greater. But it makes a viable conductor until companies start shelling out for full structural overhaul.

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:05 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:01 pm

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:55 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:50 pm

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:59 pm

BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:51 pm Just did a quick search. They are pushing 1 Gbps over copper.

Yup. You don't need fiber going into your house, just a clean signal.

That's an old wives tale.
What's "cleaner" than fiber?

Cleaner meaning no ingress in the line.

I know what "clean" means. No damage, ingress or egress.
What about signal loss over distance? What about the diameter of the copper? Are you suggesting that copper is as "clean" as fiber?

No, it's not as good and signal attenuation is definitely greater. But it makes a viable conductor until companies start shelling out for full structural overhaul.

Agreed.
Canadian cable companies started shelling out for full structural overhaul about 10 years ago and have gone nuts with it over the last 5 years. 10 years from now coaxial distribution will no longer exist in major and most medium sized population areas.

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:13 pm

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:05 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:01 pm

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:55 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:50 pm

Geist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:59 pm Yup. You don't need fiber going into your house, just a clean signal.

That's an old wives tale.
What's "cleaner" than fiber?

Cleaner meaning no ingress in the line.

I know what "clean" means. No damage, ingress or egress.
What about signal loss over distance? What about the diameter of the copper? Are you suggesting that copper is as "clean" as fiber?

No, it's not as good and signal attenuation is definitely greater. But it makes a viable conductor until companies start shelling out for full structural overhaul.

Agreed.
Canadian cable companies started shelling out for full structural overhaul about 10 years ago and have gone nuts with it over the last 5 years. 10 years from now coaxial distribution will no longer exist in major and most medium sized population areas.

Good on Canada. Fiber is fought at every turn down here, and companies have gone so far as to embezzle billions in tax dollars that were handed to them for such and upgrade.

They are right in the middle of wiring up my whole town for fiber, but it's not cheap.

And the 1 gig thing is the "advertised" speed. Nobody will ever get that much.

Back in the 90's I had the first highspeed modem that Bell put out, the Westell. Billed as 2.2mb down and 1mb up. Best I could do was about 800kb because of my distance to the CO.

megman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:20 pm And the 1 gig thing is the "advertised" speed. Nobody will ever get that much.

Fiber from the Head-End to the modem will. But anything short of that... nope.

I live in the country and I am FINALLY getting over 10 mb down. At $80 a month. Brutal. Its the only thing I miss about living in the city.

efman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:57 pm I live in the country and I am FINALLY getting over 10 mb down. At $80 a month. Brutal. Its the only thing I miss about living in the city.

Same here. Was lucky to get ATT U-verse. 17 mb. Best I can hope for.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:14 pm

efman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:57 pm I live in the country and I am FINALLY getting over 10 mb down. At $80 a month. Brutal. Its the only thing I miss about living in the city.

Same here. Was lucky to get ATT U-verse. 17 mb. Best I can hope for.

Get satellite internet. It ain't the best, but it's a whole lot better than 17 mb!

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:33 pm

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:14 pm

efman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:57 pm I live in the country and I am FINALLY getting over 10 mb down. At $80 a month. Brutal. Its the only thing I miss about living in the city.

Same here. Was lucky to get ATT U-verse. 17 mb. Best I can hope for.

Get satellite internet. It ain't the best, but it's a whole lot better than 17 mb!

Yes/no.

I have a friend in Floresville just outside of San Antonio. She has Starband and it sucks.

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:33 pm

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:14 pm

efman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:57 pm I live in the country and I am FINALLY getting over 10 mb down. At $80 a month. Brutal. Its the only thing I miss about living in the city.

Same here. Was lucky to get ATT U-verse. 17 mb. Best I can hope for.

Get satellite internet. It ain't the best, but it's a whole lot better than 17 mb!

Not happening at those prices. Not even close.

megman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:35 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:33 pm

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:14 pm

efman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:57 pm I live in the country and I am FINALLY getting over 10 mb down. At $80 a month. Brutal. Its the only thing I miss about living in the city.

Same here. Was lucky to get ATT U-verse. 17 mb. Best I can hope for.

Get satellite internet. It ain't the best, but it's a whole lot better than 17 mb!

Yes/no.

I have a friend in Floresville just outside of San Antonio. She has Starband and it sucks.

Hell, at least over fiber, you know you are afforded some privacy. Can you imagine the hackability (sp) of bouncing your internet off satellites. No thanks.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:03 pm

megman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:35 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:33 pm

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:14 pm

efman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:57 pm I live in the country and I am FINALLY getting over 10 mb down. At $80 a month. Brutal. Its the only thing I miss about living in the city.

Same here. Was lucky to get ATT U-verse. 17 mb. Best I can hope for.

Get satellite internet. It ain't the best, but it's a whole lot better than 17 mb!

Yes/no.

I have a friend in Floresville just outside of San Antonio. She has Starband and it sucks.

Hell, at least over fiber, you know you are afforded some privacy. Can you imagine the hackability (sp) of bouncing your internet off satellites. No thanks.

https://zapatopi.net/afdb/

megman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:05 pm

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:03 pm

megman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:35 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:33 pm

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:14 pm

efman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:57 pm I live in the country and I am FINALLY getting over 10 mb down. At $80 a month. Brutal. Its the only thing I miss about living in the city.

Same here. Was lucky to get ATT U-verse. 17 mb. Best I can hope for.

Get satellite internet. It ain't the best, but it's a whole lot better than 17 mb!

Yes/no.

I have a friend in Floresville just outside of San Antonio. She has Starband and it sucks.

Hell, at least over fiber, you know you are afforded some privacy. Can you imagine the hackability (sp) of bouncing your internet off satellites. No thanks.

https://zapatopi.net/afdb/

The idiot showing he has no clue how satellite communications work.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:13 pm

megman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:05 pm

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:03 pm

megman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:35 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:33 pm

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:14 pm Same here. Was lucky to get ATT U-verse. 17 mb. Best I can hope for.

Get satellite internet. It ain't the best, but it's a whole lot better than 17 mb!

Yes/no.

I have a friend in Floresville just outside of San Antonio. She has Starband and it sucks.

Hell, at least over fiber, you know you are afforded some privacy. Can you imagine the hackability (sp) of bouncing your internet off satellites. No thanks.

https://zapatopi.net/afdb/

The idiot showing he has no clue how satellite communications work.

Just stick a coat hanger out your window and you can pick up anyone's satellite internet activity.

The Chinese tapping into the retard texans tranny porn and autistic UJ ramblings