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CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:23 am
20 years ago the USA imported about 2.21 million barrels per day via the Strait of Hormuz. Today, that number is around 0.50 million barrels.

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 3:59 am Are you suggesting that the Strait being closed doesn't hurt the US economy because it doesn't buy much oil that is shipped through it? Or what is this supposed to mean?

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:23 am 20 years ago the USA imported about 2.21 million barrels per day via the Strait of Hormuz. Today, that number is around 0.50 million barrels.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:23 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 10:30 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2026 7:04 pm And that's still cheaper than Shit Show's peak.

I'm curious, when it passes the all time peak under Bush in 2008 will you be able to admit maybe chump had a bad gut instinct? It's about a month away. Prices aren't returning to normal until at least 2027 at this point. Dummies get distracted by the day traders who react to the latest tweet, but ending things tomorrow doesn't actually get things back to normal for months in the case of the distorted shipping and revamping shuttered production, years in the case of the damaged infrastructure to date with more coming unless chump tacos. What level of damage will allow you as a maga moron to acknowledge there was a whoopsie?

20 years ago the USA imported about 2.21 million barrels per day via the Strait of Hormuz. Today, that number is around 0.50 million barrels.
Now, the NATO Secretary-General is signaling the NATO forces will be agreeable to helping enforce the peace in the strait. As of now over 20 countries have pledged diplomatic and operational support with naval support still in the works.

Various sources show $4.11 as GWB's peak weekly average in 2008 while Biden's weekly peak reached $5.11 in 2022. Currently the national average is $3.70 per gallon. Will that go up? Yeah, probably a bit.

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 3:59 am

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:23 am
20 years ago the USA imported about 2.21 million barrels per day via the Strait of Hormuz. Today, that number is around 0.50 million barrels.

Are you suggesting that the Strait being closed doesn't hurt the US economy because it doesn't buy much oil that is shipped through it? Or what is this supposed to mean?

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 11:23 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 10:34 pm

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 9:33 pm Well the beauty of the scale of chumps current fuck up is you can't keep the delusion going more than a few days at a time before he's exposed again. Sooner or later you'll get there.
Sure sounds like a great tactic to blatantly bluff with someone you're trying to negotiate with by threatening a war crime then caving within 48 hrs. Solid chess there

I'm guessing Iran will call his new 'red line' bluff as well then he'll order troops into kharg island so the casualties y'all notice can really start to mount. It's that or pussy out at this point.

But here's the deal. You have to put yourself into the negotiations. There were people negotiating a few weeks ago. They had bluffed Whitcoff and Kushner (or whoever they were) long enough and Trump had told them the Iranians they better make this deal or they would get hit hard.

Was he bluffing then? They have lost most of their leadership and who knows how many military targets in the past several weeks when he was not bluffing. Those same people (probably) are back at a table talking to Kushner again. Trump makes a threat and then they have to decide if he's bluffing or not. Its easy to call a bluff when you have no skin in the game. But maybe it got these guys attention just a bit. Maybe it got them to say some things that started to move the needle a bit. So, Trump called off the bluff. Now they aren't going to admit to any of that publicly. Just like Trump won't admit to a lot of what goes on publicly. But that bluff was so far out in left field that it makes more sense for it to have been a blff all along with the intent to get Iran to come public with what they would do in return so all of their neighbors could hear. Now Bahrain, UAE, Saudi, Oman, Kuwait, all of them know that Death to America can also mean death to anyone within missle range.

Chump betraying negotiations isn't calling a bluff it's proving for a second time negotiations are meaningless because chump betrays negotiations. That's not bluffing, that's called lying, bad faith, welching, take your pick. Whatever you want to call it you can't pretend it's a negotiating position because you've shown the whole world you're a lying little bitch and can't keep your word.
And yes I agree, countries that took the devil's deal to take US protection now do understand it's basically worthless. I don't think that means what you think it means..

But again, all you need to focus on right now is that your orange god having pussied out of his self imposed 48 hrs deadline is now going to pussy out of his self imposed five day deadline. How many repetitions do you need to engage your brain?

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 5:18 pm its hilarious when people hate Trump so much they are willing to take statements by Iranian spokesmen as fact These are the same lying Iranians that have been leading us on for the last 50 years. Nevermind that Turkey, Egypt and the UK are all confirming that talks have been going on.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:21 pm

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 3:59 am

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:23 am
20 years ago the USA imported about 2.21 million barrels per day via the Strait of Hormuz. Today, that number is around 0.50 million barrels.

Are you suggesting that the Strait being closed doesn't hurt the US economy because it doesn't buy much oil that is shipped through it? Or what is this supposed to mean?

I'm noting that we are not as reliant on oil shipped through the strait as we used to be. Of course it will still have an impact on our economy but the situation is not the same as it was when GWB was POTUS.

dot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 3:52 pm

Biker wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 4:35 pm She's a criminal. Good fucking riddance

dot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 3:52 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 6:07 pm If she's an illegal alien what exactly is your issue?

dot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 5:22 pm But you were busy deflecting from the fallout over Iran with a meme, so I'll let you get back to ignoring the mess y'all made.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:21 pm

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 3:59 am

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 2:23 am
20 years ago the USA imported about 2.21 million barrels per day via the Strait of Hormuz. Today, that number is around 0.50 million barrels.

Are you suggesting that the Strait being closed doesn't hurt the US economy because it doesn't buy much oil that is shipped through it? Or what is this supposed to mean?

I'm noting that we are not as reliant on oil shipped through the strait as we used to be. Of course it will still have an impact on our economy but the situation is not the same as it was when GWB was POTUS.

Animal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 12:23 pm

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 11:23 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 10:34 pm

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 9:33 pm Well the beauty of the scale of chumps current fuck up is you can't keep the delusion going more than a few days at a time before he's exposed again. Sooner or later you'll get there.
Sure sounds like a great tactic to blatantly bluff with someone you're trying to negotiate with by threatening a war crime then caving within 48 hrs. Solid chess there

I'm guessing Iran will call his new 'red line' bluff as well then he'll order troops into kharg island so the casualties y'all notice can really start to mount. It's that or pussy out at this point.

But here's the deal. You have to put yourself into the negotiations. There were people negotiating a few weeks ago. They had bluffed Whitcoff and Kushner (or whoever they were) long enough and Trump had told them the Iranians they better make this deal or they would get hit hard.

Was he bluffing then? They have lost most of their leadership and who knows how many military targets in the past several weeks when he was not bluffing. Those same people (probably) are back at a table talking to Kushner again. Trump makes a threat and then they have to decide if he's bluffing or not. Its easy to call a bluff when you have no skin in the game. But maybe it got these guys attention just a bit. Maybe it got them to say some things that started to move the needle a bit. So, Trump called off the bluff. Now they aren't going to admit to any of that publicly. Just like Trump won't admit to a lot of what goes on publicly. But that bluff was so far out in left field that it makes more sense for it to have been a blff all along with the intent to get Iran to come public with what they would do in return so all of their neighbors could hear. Now Bahrain, UAE, Saudi, Oman, Kuwait, all of them know that Death to America can also mean death to anyone within missle range.

Chump betraying negotiations isn't calling a bluff it's proving for a second time negotiations are meaningless because chump betrays negotiations. That's not bluffing, that's called lying, bad faith, welching, take your pick. Whatever you want to call it you can't pretend it's a negotiating position because you've shown the whole world you're a lying little bitch and can't keep your word.
And yes I agree, countries that took the devil's deal to take US protection now do understand it's basically worthless. I don't think that means what you think it means..

But again, all you need to focus on right now is that your orange god having pussied out of his self imposed 48 hrs deadline is now going to pussy out of his self imposed five day deadline. How many repetitions do you need to engage your brain?

The entire premise of your argument is bullshit. Trump gives an "or else" ultimatum to a murderous bunch of religious lunatics and you call him a pussy. After 50 years of killing and chants of death to america, Trump stands up to a rogue and dangerous regime and you call him a pussy. He sends in the military to kick the living shit out of their military, assasinate their leaders, and you call him a pussy. And your solution would have been to do nothing and let them continue on and yet you don't see the irony in that. But you will be more than ready to live your life under the protection of a threatless Iran moving forward. Enjoy your worthless protection.

dot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 5:22 pm

Biker wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 4:35 pm She's a criminal. Good fucking riddance

Says who? And where does your line begin and end for getting rid of criminals, cause we got a felon in charge of the country. But you were busy deflecting from the fallout over Iran with a meme, so I'll let you get back to ignoring the mess y'all made.

dot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 6:22 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 6:07 pm If she's an illegal alien what exactly is your issue?

Due process and fixing the immigration process rather than using it to demonize people that look like me, Bob. After all, I thought the worst of the worst were the ones that were going to be the focus.

dot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 5:22 pm But you were busy deflecting from the fallout over Iran with a meme, so I'll let you get back to ignoring the mess y'all made.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 8:15 pm Russia: "Um, give it up, bro."

In a call with Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, Russia’s top diplomat Sergei Lavrov urged an “immediate cessation of hostilities and a political settlement that takes into account the legitimate interests of all parties involved, above all Iran,”

Biker wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 7:18 pm They had outstanding removal orders;

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 8:17 pm When you disobey a lawful order this is what happens. The same would happen to a legal citizen.

dot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 5:22 pm But you were busy deflecting from the fallout over Iran with a meme, so I'll let you get back to ignoring the mess y'all made.

He pussied out of his ultimatum, he'll do that again in 4 days. His options are ground troops or leave Iran in control of the strait with the American shield exposed as full of holes.