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look, you are taking an off the cuff remark from trump. "everyone" could mean 2 people. and those 2 people could be his son and some guy at a coffee shop. he speaks in extremes, you know that.VisionaryEric wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:56 pmYes. Even Trump could imagine that. Maybe.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:51 pmi think anything would be pure speculation, but i assume it means that its this dark cloud over your head for the duration of the investigation. its the first question at every press conference. it ruins mid term election results. its the punch line for every late night talk show host. etc.VisionaryEric wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:47 pm "Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels, it ruins your presidency".
Genuinely curious. What kind of political history supports this claim?
But "everyone" had already told him that, just as he got the news about the independent counsel.
Not sure your examples there stops him from doing anything either. This is weak.
i'm not arguing anything. i'm simply putting the entire conversation out for people to see and not picking out one sentence that fits some narrative some people (you) have. Think that through.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:58 pmYou are arguing that he only feared the investigation meant the end of his presidency because it prevented him doing stuff, yet you can't come up with anything it could have prevented him doing and have no interest in what it possibly could have prevented him doing?Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:40 pmwhat do i think it prevented him from doing? I have no idea. I'm just repeating the context in the next sentence after what you posted.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:37 pm
What do you think the investigation prevented trump doing? And how?
"Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels, it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won't be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me," Trump said, according to the report.
Uh huh. And do you think you've thought that one through?
It's just dialogue. I'm sure the IC question had already come up as a possibility.VisionaryEric wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:56 pmYes. Even Trump could imagine that. Maybe.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:51 pmi think anything would be pure speculation, but i assume it means that its this dark cloud over your head for the duration of the investigation. its the first question at every press conference. it ruins mid term election results. its the punch line for every late night talk show host. etc.VisionaryEric wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:47 pm "Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels, it ruins your presidency".
Genuinely curious. What kind of political history supports this claim?
But "everyone" had already told him that, just as he got the news about the independent counsel.
Not sure your examples there stops him from doing anything either. This is weak.
So you aren't even presenting the excuse you're presenting as an excuse? Doesn't seem like a great excuse.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:02 pmi'm not arguing anything. i'm simply putting the entire conversation out for people to see and not picking out one sentence that fits some narrative some people (you) have. Think that through.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:58 pmYou are arguing that he only feared the investigation meant the end of his presidency because it prevented him doing stuff, yet you can't come up with anything it could have prevented him doing and have no interest in what it possibly could have prevented him doing?Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:40 pmwhat do i think it prevented him from doing? I have no idea. I'm just repeating the context in the next sentence after what you posted.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:37 pm
What do you think the investigation prevented trump doing? And how?
"Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels, it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won't be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me," Trump said, according to the report.
Uh huh. And do you think you've thought that one through?
Everyone speaks in extremes. "It's been raining forever!"Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:00 pmlook, you are taking an off the cuff remark from trump. "everyone" could mean 2 people. and those 2 people could be his son and some guy at a coffee shop. he speaks in extremes, you know that.VisionaryEric wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:56 pmYes. Even Trump could imagine that. Maybe.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:51 pmi think anything would be pure speculation, but i assume it means that its this dark cloud over your head for the duration of the investigation. its the first question at every press conference. it ruins mid term election results. its the punch line for every late night talk show host. etc.VisionaryEric wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:47 pm "Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels, it ruins your presidency".
Genuinely curious. What kind of political history supports this claim?
But "everyone" had already told him that, just as he got the news about the independent counsel.
Not sure your examples there stops him from doing anything either. This is weak.
or how about losing control of the house in the midterms? little things like that.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:04 pm
It's just dialogue. I'm sure the IC question had already come up as a possibility.
It takes up your time, effects your sleep, effects whether other leaders will deal with you, wondering if they're wasting their time.. a hundred different things, probably. What about pols in your own party who won't fall in line because they're afraid you'll drag them down with you, or those on the other side who won't cross over (not that there's a lot of that anymore, anyway)
That was a possibility, anyway. A lot of people were REALLY pissed about the 2016. They were motivated, the other side was not.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:07 pmor how about losing control of the house in the midterms? little things like that.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:04 pm
It's just dialogue. I'm sure the IC question had already come up as a possibility.
It takes up your time, effects your sleep, effects whether other leaders will deal with you, wondering if they're wasting their time.. a hundred different things, probably. What about pols in your own party who won't fall in line because they're afraid you'll drag them down with you, or those on the other side who won't cross over (not that there's a lot of that anymore, anyway)
So you're just full of it. You're basically clueless.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:00 pmlook, you are taking an off the cuff remark from trump. "everyone" could mean 2 people. and those 2 people could be his son and some guy at a coffee shop. he speaks in extremes, you know that.VisionaryEric wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:56 pmYes. Even Trump could imagine that. Maybe.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:51 pmi think anything would be pure speculation, but i assume it means that its this dark cloud over your head for the duration of the investigation. its the first question at every press conference. it ruins mid term election results. its the punch line for every late night talk show host. etc.VisionaryEric wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:47 pm "Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels, it ruins your presidency".
Genuinely curious. What kind of political history supports this claim?
But "everyone" had already told him that, just as he got the news about the independent counsel.
Not sure your examples there stops him from doing anything either. This is weak.
You're so full of shit that your eyes are brown. 8 years of the shit Obama took, from a brown suit to what kind of mustard he ate, to his wife wearing a sleeveless dress.WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:52 pm Look. Here's the bottom line for me. I don't do political. But I think just everybody can agree that this President has been subjected to unprecedented attacks from the left and their media cronies propaganda wing for 3 straight years no President in history has ever faced.
And so will independents and Dems who like their money.WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:08 am You guys can post memes to infinity, add all your fury, express outrage to the heavens, it doesn't change the a Goddamn thing. Libs howl at the Moon. Conservatives say nothing and show at the voting booths. Game Over.
2032 is the earliest Dems will be be a viable party again, maybe. Probably get their shit together after the 2020 massacre. I hope not. They seem to be be especially out of touch with reality (American voters) since the Whigs in the 1800's.Gunzen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:29 amAnd so will independents and Dems who like their money.WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:08 am You guys can post memes to infinity, add all your fury, express outrage to the heavens, it doesn't change the a Goddamn thing. Libs howl at the Moon. Conservatives say nothing and show at the voting booths. Game Over.
Memes are for Reddit and for kids who barely even vote. There is no collusion and that was what this was about. There is also no evidence of obstruction of justice at this point.
If the Dems want to keep going down this road, and ignore real issues they will lose in 2020.
They fucking called him a traitor and a spy for two years, and now that he isn’t they are moving the goalposts and looking for any scintilla of evidence for any crime they can.
The American people were focused on collusion. That was what this was all about. They lost. Schiff/Pelosi already said it isn’t worth it because they will lose, again.
It is about the economy stupid. As long as we keep chugging along, and all those small business keep their tax cuts, nobody give a fuck about this shit.
People should be relieved their president isn’t a traitor. But the left hate Trump so much they would rather our economy collapse and our president be a double agent than the prosperity we are seeing now.
So stupid. Let the dude do his job and vote him out on the issues.
Good luck with that.
