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Animal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:08 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:53 am He knelt on the neck of that handcuffed black man until the man died. You sick racist fuck. He has been convicted of this crime, and this is fact, you sick racist fuck. You are still arguing he didn't do the crime he has now actually been convicted of beyond a reasonable doubt simply, solely and beyond a reasonable doubt because you are yourself a racist fuck who cares nothing for justice.

You do you buddy. You want to support a racist murderer, knock yourself out. Free country. But that's also why I can call you out on it, you sick fuck.

I only pointed out that i thought it was odd that a juror pointed out her biggest takeaway from the case and it was wrong. his hands weren't in his pocket. That's all i was pointing out, Karen.

QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:36 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:08 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:53 am He knelt on the neck of that handcuffed black man until the man died. You sick racist fuck. He has been convicted of this crime, and this is fact, you sick racist fuck. You are still arguing he didn't do the crime he has now actually been convicted of beyond a reasonable doubt simply, solely and beyond a reasonable doubt because you are yourself a racist fuck who cares nothing for justice.

You do you buddy. You want to support a racist murderer, knock yourself out. Free country. But that's also why I can call you out on it, you sick fuck.

I only pointed out that i thought it was odd that a juror pointed out her biggest takeaway from the case and it was wrong. his hands weren't in his pocket. That's all i was pointing out, Karen.

It means that each juror has their own discretion in how they interpret the testimony and evidence and how it weighs towards their final decision on the case. If that's what the juror fixated on, and neither the defense nor the prosecution made any effort to turn each piece of testimony and evidence to their side, each juror can take it any way they want. Jurors cannot be punished for reaching a "wrong" decision.

Until now, I too thought Chauvin had his hand in his pocket, that's the way it looks, even if it's wrong. Did either the prosecutor or the defense bring that particular part of that picture up in court? If not, too bad.

pork wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:27 pm
im not trying to stir it up...but the defense totally went into it and showed it looked like the hand was in the pocket but the black gloves only made it appear that way. chauvvin has a history of doing this shit. you play with fire eventually get burnt. fuck him. i know some great cops.i also know some asshole cops that would do the same thing. i told a story on here when i was 20 and back from boot camp and was cuffed and got the shit beat out of me. three guys and me cuffed. guess who lost...they fucked me up for no reason.

pork wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:27 pm

QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:36 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:08 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:53 am He knelt on the neck of that handcuffed black man until the man died. You sick racist fuck. He has been convicted of this crime, and this is fact, you sick racist fuck. You are still arguing he didn't do the crime he has now actually been convicted of beyond a reasonable doubt simply, solely and beyond a reasonable doubt because you are yourself a racist fuck who cares nothing for justice.

You do you buddy. You want to support a racist murderer, knock yourself out. Free country. But that's also why I can call you out on it, you sick fuck.

I only pointed out that i thought it was odd that a juror pointed out her biggest takeaway from the case and it was wrong. his hands weren't in his pocket. That's all i was pointing out, Karen.

It means that each juror has their own discretion in how they interpret the testimony and evidence and how it weighs towards their final decision on the case. If that's what the juror fixated on, and neither the defense nor the prosecution made any effort to turn each piece of testimony and evidence to their side, each juror can take it any way they want. Jurors cannot be punished for reaching a "wrong" decision.

Until now, I too thought Chauvin had his hand in his pocket, that's the way it looks, even if it's wrong. Did either the prosecutor or the defense bring that particular part of that picture up in court? If not, too bad.

im not trying to stir it up...but the defense totally went into it and showed it looked like the hand was in the pocket but the black gloves only made it appear that way. chauvvin has a history of doing this shit. you play with fire eventually get burnt. fuck him. i know some great cops.i also know some asshole cops that would do the same thing. i told a story on here when i was 20 and back from boot camp and was cuffed and got the shit beat out of me. three guys and me cuffed. guess who lost...they fucked me up for no reason.

QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:48 pm

pork wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:27 pm
im not trying to stir it up...but the defense totally went into it and showed it looked like the hand was in the pocket but the black gloves only made it appear that way. chauvvin has a history of doing this shit. you play with fire eventually get burnt. fuck him. i know some great cops.i also know some asshole cops that would do the same thing. i told a story on here when i was 20 and back from boot camp and was cuffed and got the shit beat out of me. three guys and me cuffed. guess who lost...they fucked me up for no reason.

Well, alright. I didn't keep up with this trial much at all. But either way, hand in pocket or on hip/leg, it just wasn't a good optic for him.

My sister's first husband was a cop with the Houston PD for 35 years, my good friend and flight instructor has been a cop with various agencies for about 30 years, and I even looked into the Orlando PD when I first moved here. I respect the basic duties of a police officer. But too many are abusing the notions and responsibilities entailed in being a police officer, and so are bringing serious disrespect towards their jobs, agencies and profession.

Animal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:37 pm One of the jurors talking about her impressions of Derek Chauvin from inside the courtroom during the trial:

Raguse: What was your impression of Derek Chauvin?

Christensen: From where I was sitting, I could look up, and lock eyes with him. It made me feel a little uncomfortable. He had nowhere to look either, so it was just kind of weird. I do not think he was trying to make any gestures by that at all. I thought he was smaller in person. In the pictures that I had seen, he looked bigger and taller than what he was.

Raguse: How about his demeanor in the courtroom? Was there anything that you took from him, in person?

Christensen: I did not. Most of the time he was writing just as much as we were. I think he was trying to pay attention and maybe write down questions or concerns that he had to pass along to Mr. Nelson.

Raguse: What was your impression of him based off what you saw in the videos and heard from the testimony of the witnesses?

Christensen: The still picture from the video, where his hand is in his pocket, kind of got to me. Almost like he was thinking, "This is my job, don’t tell me what to do," and he was not going to listen to what anybody had to say because he was in charge. That bothered me a little bit.

Charliesheen wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:09 pm

pork wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:27 pm

QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:36 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:08 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:53 am He knelt on the neck of that handcuffed black man until the man died. You sick racist fuck. He has been convicted of this crime, and this is fact, you sick racist fuck. You are still arguing he didn't do the crime he has now actually been convicted of beyond a reasonable doubt simply, solely and beyond a reasonable doubt because you are yourself a racist fuck who cares nothing for justice.

You do you buddy. You want to support a racist murderer, knock yourself out. Free country. But that's also why I can call you out on it, you sick fuck.

I only pointed out that i thought it was odd that a juror pointed out her biggest takeaway from the case and it was wrong. his hands weren't in his pocket. That's all i was pointing out, Karen.

It means that each juror has their own discretion in how they interpret the testimony and evidence and how it weighs towards their final decision on the case. If that's what the juror fixated on, and neither the defense nor the prosecution made any effort to turn each piece of testimony and evidence to their side, each juror can take it any way they want. Jurors cannot be punished for reaching a "wrong" decision.

Until now, I too thought Chauvin had his hand in his pocket, that's the way it looks, even if it's wrong. Did either the prosecutor or the defense bring that particular part of that picture up in court? If not, too bad.

im not trying to stir it up...but the defense totally went into it and showed it looked like the hand was in the pocket but the black gloves only made it appear that way. chauvvin has a history of doing this shit. you play with fire eventually get burnt. fuck him. i know some great cops.i also know some asshole cops that would do the same thing. i told a story on here when i was 20 and back from boot camp and was cuffed and got the shit beat out of me. three guys and me cuffed. guess who lost...they fucked me up for no reason.

Ive had some interactions with cops including a DUI. Never close to getting a wood shampoo. What does it take?

pork wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:53 pm

Charliesheen wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:09 pm

pork wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:27 pm

QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:36 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:08 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:53 am He knelt on the neck of that handcuffed black man until the man died. You sick racist fuck. He has been convicted of this crime, and this is fact, you sick racist fuck. You are still arguing he didn't do the crime he has now actually been convicted of beyond a reasonable doubt simply, solely and beyond a reasonable doubt because you are yourself a racist fuck who cares nothing for justice.

You do you buddy. You want to support a racist murderer, knock yourself out. Free country. But that's also why I can call you out on it, you sick fuck.

I only pointed out that i thought it was odd that a juror pointed out her biggest takeaway from the case and it was wrong. his hands weren't in his pocket. That's all i was pointing out, Karen.

It means that each juror has their own discretion in how they interpret the testimony and evidence and how it weighs towards their final decision on the case. If that's what the juror fixated on, and neither the defense nor the prosecution made any effort to turn each piece of testimony and evidence to their side, each juror can take it any way they want. Jurors cannot be punished for reaching a "wrong" decision.

Until now, I too thought Chauvin had his hand in his pocket, that's the way it looks, even if it's wrong. Did either the prosecutor or the defense bring that particular part of that picture up in court? If not, too bad.

im not trying to stir it up...but the defense totally went into it and showed it looked like the hand was in the pocket but the black gloves only made it appear that way. chauvvin has a history of doing this shit. you play with fire eventually get burnt. fuck him. i know some great cops.i also know some asshole cops that would do the same thing. i told a story on here when i was 20 and back from boot camp and was cuffed and got the shit beat out of me. three guys and me cuffed. guess who lost...they fucked me up for no reason.

Ive had some interactions with cops including a DUI. Never close to getting a wood shampoo. What does it take?

when i said no reason. shit happened prior to them assaulting me while i was cuffed. my friends and i were leaving a night club. this smoking hot chick was in front of us leaving and my friend made a crack about her and i said something too but it was amongst us. the bouncer freaked out on us and started to fight us. typical juice monkey bouncer in a club. so there was a fight with several bouncers and my friends. it was literally 10 seconds and the cops showed up. i had the bounce in a rear naked choke. he was basically out when the cops grabbed me and cuffed me. they stood me up and walked to the car. then the pulled my shirt over my head so i couldn't see shit and they beat me like a punching bag. i then sat in jail all busted up for 2 days until the judge released with no charges. yeah i hate cops and my big brother is a cop/

pork wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:07 pm one of the jurors lied about not knowing the case. there is a picture of him wearing a blm shirt at a blm rally last year. guess whos going to get their conviction thrown out?

Animal wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:09 pm

pork wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:07 pm one of the jurors lied about not knowing the case. there is a picture of him wearing a blm shirt at a blm rally last year. guess whos going to get their conviction thrown out?

i just heard about that, but I can't find the picture they are referencing. It was a BLM rally in Washington and he had a T-shirt on that said "Get your Knees off Our Necks".

necronomous wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:13 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:09 pm

pork wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:07 pm one of the jurors lied about not knowing the case. there is a picture of him wearing a blm shirt at a blm rally last year. guess whos going to get their conviction thrown out?

i just heard about that, but I can't find the picture they are referencing. It was a BLM rally in Washington and he had a T-shirt on that said "Get your Knees off Our Necks".

Here you go

Animal wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:17 pm

necronomous wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:13 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:09 pm

pork wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:07 pm one of the jurors lied about not knowing the case. there is a picture of him wearing a blm shirt at a blm rally last year. guess whos going to get their conviction thrown out?

i just heard about that, but I can't find the picture they are referencing. It was a BLM rally in Washington and he had a T-shirt on that said "Get your Knees off Our Necks".

Here you go

I have been through several jury selections and I can't imagine how he made it through.

pork wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:07 pm one of the jurors lied about not knowing the case. there is a picture of him wearing a blm shirt at a blm rally last year. guess whos going to get their conviction thrown out?

Stapes wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:20 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:17 pm

necronomous wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:13 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:09 pm

pork wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:07 pm one of the jurors lied about not knowing the case. there is a picture of him wearing a blm shirt at a blm rally last year. guess whos going to get their conviction thrown out?

i just heard about that, but I can't find the picture they are referencing. It was a BLM rally in Washington and he had a T-shirt on that said "Get your Knees off Our Necks".

Here you go

I have been through several jury selections and I can't imagine how he made it through.

I think he lied or omitted on his voir dire questionnaire but the defense usually vets these jurors better than that

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:25 pm

pork wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:07 pm one of the jurors lied about not knowing the case. there is a picture of him wearing a blm shirt at a blm rally last year. guess whos going to get their conviction thrown out?

No he didn't, he informed them he'd discussed the case with friends and family. Would have been petty near impossible to find a panel who hadn't heard of the case.