Canadian Thread-Jack

[megman]

Reparations need to start with native indians first......

Indians aren't native, they came here from Europe and Siberia, and brought disease, and abused the land and killed each other for generations before we got here and did it better. dumbnass.

Fuck them, they raped the land and animals and killed off species too.

They raped animals?

He's confusing it with Tennessee.

[Reservoir Dog]

Reparations need to start with native indians first......

Indians aren't native, they came here from Europe and Siberia, and brought disease, and abused the land and killed each other for generations before we got here and did it better. dumbnass.

Fuck them, they raped the land and animals and killed off species too.

They raped animals?

He's confusing it with Tennessee.

They raped the land with all those coal plants, oil wells, and massive hydroelectric dams they built.

[necronomous]

Reparations need to start with native indians first......

Indians aren't native, they came here from Europe and Siberia, and brought disease, and abused the land and killed each other for generations before we got here and did it better. dumbnass.

Fuck them, they raped the land and animals and killed off species too.

They raped animals?

He's confusing it with Tennessee.

They raped the land with all those coal plants, oil wells, and massive hydroelectric dams they built.

Actually they took out a shit ton of trees.

[Reservoir Dog]

Reparations need to start with native indians first......

Indians aren't native, they came here from Europe and Siberia, and brought disease, and abused the land and killed each other for generations before we got here and did it better. dumbnass.

Fuck them, they raped the land and animals and killed off species too.

They raped animals?

He's confusing it with Tennessee.

They raped the land with all those coal plants, oil wells, and massive hydroelectric dams they built.

Actually they took out a shit ton of trees.

Which is why North America was a barren wilderness when Whitey showed up.

[necronomous]

Indians aren't native, they came here from Europe and Siberia, and brought disease, and abused the land and killed each other for generations before we got here and did it better. dumbnass.

Fuck them, they raped the land and animals and killed off species too.

They raped animals?

He's confusing it with Tennessee.

They raped the land with all those coal plants, oil wells, and massive hydroelectric dams they built.

Actually they took out a shit ton of trees.

Which is why North America was a barren wilderness when Whitey showed up.

I said a shit ton, not all. But way to deny.

[Reservoir Dog]

They raped animals?

He's confusing it with Tennessee.

They raped the land with all those coal plants, oil wells, and massive hydroelectric dams they built.

Actually they took out a shit ton of trees.

Which is why North America was a barren wilderness when Whitey showed up.

I said a shit ton, not all. But way to deny.

The term "raped the land" leaves little room for speculation.

[necronomous]

He's confusing it with Tennessee.

They raped the land with all those coal plants, oil wells, and massive hydroelectric dams they built.

Actually they took out a shit ton of trees.

Which is why North America was a barren wilderness when Whitey showed up.

I said a shit ton, not all. But way to deny.

The term "raped the land" leaves little room for speculation.

I, me, I said shit ton, not raped.

[Reservoir Dog]

They raped the land with all those coal plants, oil wells, and massive hydroelectric dams they built.

Actually they took out a shit ton of trees.

Which is why North America was a barren wilderness when Whitey showed up.

I said a shit ton, not all. But way to deny.

The term "raped the land" leaves little room for speculation.

I, me, I said shit ton, not raped.

I know. I'm referencing Gunzen's retarded statement. The one you seem to be trying to support.

[necronomous]

Actually they took out a shit ton of trees.

Which is why North America was a barren wilderness when Whitey showed up.

I said a shit ton, not all. But way to deny.

The term "raped the land" leaves little room for speculation.

I, me, I said shit ton, not raped.

I know. I'm referencing Gunzen's retarded statement. The one you seem to be trying to support.

I'm not supporting gunzens statement.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1921261

[Reservoir Dog]

I'm not supporting gunzens statement.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1921261

Interesting read. Took me two coffees to get through it. It kind of comes across like Whitey trying to make himself feel a little better about himself. (and it contradicts itself on several occasions) And the whole canoe thing... really? They cleared entire forests just to make canoes?

Did Native Americans clear land for agriculture? Absolutely.
Did they use fire and bark peeling to do it? Absolutely.
And why? Because they had no metallurgy. When Whitey showed up they were still using tomahawks make with stones.

The Native Americans of that era thought they were "one" with the land. They took what they needed from it and very little else. Most of their "Gods" were integral with nature and the land. The very thought of destroying land for more than they need would never have occurred to them.

The very idea that Native Americans of that time were involved in the wholesale slaughter of their natural resources is simply ridiculous.

[necronomous]

I'm not supporting gunzens statement.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1921261

Interesting read. Took me two coffees to get through it. It kind of comes across like Whitey trying to make himself feel a little better about himself. (and it contradicts itself on several occasions) And the whole canoe thing... really? They cleared entire forests just to make canoes?

Did Native Americans clear land for agriculture? Absolutely.
Did they use fire and bark peeling to do it? Absolutely.
And why? Because they had no metallurgy. When Whitey showed up they were still using tomahawks make with stones.

The Native Americans of that era thought they were "one" with the land. They took what they needed from it and very little else. Most of their "Gods" were integral with nature and the land. The very thought of destroying land for more than they need would never have occurred to them.

The very idea that Native Americans of that time were involved in the wholesale slaughter of their natural resources is simply ridiculous.

If you think that's the only book sourcing this, whatever guilts you I guess. And if you think all that harmony with the land shit, go for it. White people bad, I get it. I also didnt say wholesale slaughter of their resources. I said shit ton of trees. However, if there were more, and became more technologically sound on their own, I believe 100% they would do the same thing without the white man. But lets keep pretending it's just white people that were the horror. They took out a crap ton of forest with just a small amount of people( relatively speaking) and little technology wise. Guaranteed it would have been more otherwise all by themselves.

[Reservoir Dog]

I'm not supporting gunzens statement.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1921261

Interesting read. Took me two coffees to get through it. It kind of comes across like Whitey trying to make himself feel a little better about himself. (and it contradicts itself on several occasions) And the whole canoe thing... really? They cleared entire forests just to make canoes?

Did Native Americans clear land for agriculture? Absolutely.
Did they use fire and bark peeling to do it? Absolutely.
And why? Because they had no metallurgy. When Whitey showed up they were still using tomahawks make with stones.

The Native Americans of that era thought they were "one" with the land. They took what they needed from it and very little else. Most of their "Gods" were integral with nature and the land. The very thought of destroying land for more than they need would never have occurred to them.

The very idea that Native Americans of that time were involved in the wholesale slaughter of their natural resources is simply ridiculous.

If you think that's the only book sourcing this, whatever guilts you I guess. And if you think all that harmony with the land shit, go for it. White people bad, I get it. I also didnt say wholesale slaughter of their resources. I said shit ton of trees. However, if there were more, and became more technologically sound on their own, I believe 100% they would do the same thing without the white man. But lets keep pretending it's just white people that were the horror. They took out a crap ton of forest with just a small amount of people( relatively speaking) and little technology wise. Guaranteed it would have been more otherwise all by themselves.

We'll never know because it never happened. In the meantime, you're dealing in pure speculation.

[Animal]

if you think about it, everyone "only takes what they need from the land". where the big differences come in is what tools they have available to do it with.

[QillerDaemon]

Indians aren't native, they came here from Europe and Siberia,

Who is really a native people anywhere?

[Animal]

Indians aren't native, they came here from Europe and Siberia,

Who is really a native people anywhere?

There is a guy in Chad who comes from a family that has been there ever since they evolved.

[Antknot]

Indians aren't native, they came here from Europe and Siberia,

Who is really a native people anywhere?

There is a guy in Chad who comes from a family that has been there ever since they evolved.

Let's leave the 2000 election out of this.

[QillerDaemon]

Indians aren't native, they came here from Europe and Siberia,

Who is really a native people anywhere?

There is a guy in Chad who comes from a family that has been there ever since they evolved.

Exactly. Probably a little more south in Africa than Chad, though, but it's the right idea.

[necronomous]

I'm not supporting gunzens statement.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1921261

Interesting read. Took me two coffees to get through it. It kind of comes across like Whitey trying to make himself feel a little better about himself. (and it contradicts itself on several occasions) And the whole canoe thing... really? They cleared entire forests just to make canoes?

Did Native Americans clear land for agriculture? Absolutely.
Did they use fire and bark peeling to do it? Absolutely.
And why? Because they had no metallurgy. When Whitey showed up they were still using tomahawks make with stones.

The Native Americans of that era thought they were "one" with the land. They took what they needed from it and very little else. Most of their "Gods" were integral with nature and the land. The very thought of destroying land for more than they need would never have occurred to them.

The very idea that Native Americans of that time were involved in the wholesale slaughter of their natural resources is simply ridiculous.

If you think that's the only book sourcing this, whatever guilts you I guess. And if you think all that harmony with the land shit, go for it. White people bad, I get it. I also didnt say wholesale slaughter of their resources. I said shit ton of trees. However, if there were more, and became more technologically sound on their own, I believe 100% they would do the same thing without the white man. But lets keep pretending it's just white people that were the horror. They took out a crap ton of forest with just a small amount of people( relatively speaking) and little technology wise. Guaranteed it would have been more otherwise all by themselves.

We'll never know because it never happened. In the meantime, you're dealing in pure speculation.

But they did tear down a shit ton of trees, so logically it makes sense.

[megman]

I'm not supporting gunzens statement.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1921261

Interesting read. Took me two coffees to get through it. It kind of comes across like Whitey trying to make himself feel a little better about himself. (and it contradicts itself on several occasions) And the whole canoe thing... really? They cleared entire forests just to make canoes?

Did Native Americans clear land for agriculture? Absolutely.
Did they use fire and bark peeling to do it? Absolutely.
And why? Because they had no metallurgy. When Whitey showed up they were still using tomahawks make with stones.

The Native Americans of that era thought they were "one" with the land. They took what they needed from it and very little else. Most of their "Gods" were integral with nature and the land. The very thought of destroying land for more than they need would never have occurred to them.

The very idea that Native Americans of that time were involved in the wholesale slaughter of their natural resources is simply ridiculous.

If you think that's the only book sourcing this, whatever guilts you I guess. And if you think all that harmony with the land shit, go for it. White people bad, I get it. I also didnt say wholesale slaughter of their resources. I said shit ton of trees. However, if there were more, and became more technologically sound on their own, I believe 100% they would do the same thing without the white man. But lets keep pretending it's just white people that were the horror. They took out a crap ton of forest with just a small amount of people( relatively speaking) and little technology wise. Guaranteed it would have been more otherwise all by themselves.

We'll never know because it never happened. In the meantime, you're dealing in pure speculation.

But they did tear down a shit ton of trees, so logically it makes sense.

Must have been all those log homes and railroads they were building.....

[Reservoir Dog]

I'm not supporting gunzens statement.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1921261

Interesting read. Took me two coffees to get through it. It kind of comes across like Whitey trying to make himself feel a little better about himself. (and it contradicts itself on several occasions) And the whole canoe thing... really? They cleared entire forests just to make canoes?

Did Native Americans clear land for agriculture? Absolutely.
Did they use fire and bark peeling to do it? Absolutely.
And why? Because they had no metallurgy. When Whitey showed up they were still using tomahawks make with stones.

The Native Americans of that era thought they were "one" with the land. They took what they needed from it and very little else. Most of their "Gods" were integral with nature and the land. The very thought of destroying land for more than they need would never have occurred to them.

The very idea that Native Americans of that time were involved in the wholesale slaughter of their natural resources is simply ridiculous.

If you think that's the only book sourcing this, whatever guilts you I guess. And if you think all that harmony with the land shit, go for it. White people bad, I get it. I also didnt say wholesale slaughter of their resources. I said shit ton of trees. However, if there were more, and became more technologically sound on their own, I believe 100% they would do the same thing without the white man. But lets keep pretending it's just white people that were the horror. They took out a crap ton of forest with just a small amount of people( relatively speaking) and little technology wise. Guaranteed it would have been more otherwise all by themselves.

We'll never know because it never happened. In the meantime, you're dealing in pure speculation.

But they did tear down a shit ton of trees, so logically it makes sense.

Okay. You win.
No matter how badly we have treated them, no matter what atrocities we have committed upon their people... it's all good because they cut down a bunch of trees before white men ever landed in North America.
I can't believe I've been so blind. Thank you for setting me straight on this matter.

[Animal]

Must have been all those log homes and railroads they were building.....

think about all the stuff they used trees for. canoes, totem poles, tent poles for their wigwams and teepees, camp fires, bows and arrows...

[megman]

Must have been all those log homes and railroads they were building.....

think about all the stuff they used trees for. canoes, totem poles, tent poles for their wigwams and teepees, camp fires, bows and arrows...

You forgot peace pipes.

[necronomous]

I'm not supporting gunzens statement.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1921261

Interesting read. Took me two coffees to get through it. It kind of comes across like Whitey trying to make himself feel a little better about himself. (and it contradicts itself on several occasions) And the whole canoe thing... really? They cleared entire forests just to make canoes?

Did Native Americans clear land for agriculture? Absolutely.
Did they use fire and bark peeling to do it? Absolutely.
And why? Because they had no metallurgy. When Whitey showed up they were still using tomahawks make with stones.

The Native Americans of that era thought they were "one" with the land. They took what they needed from it and very little else. Most of their "Gods" were integral with nature and the land. The very thought of destroying land for more than they need would never have occurred to them.

The very idea that Native Americans of that time were involved in the wholesale slaughter of their natural resources is simply ridiculous.

If you think that's the only book sourcing this, whatever guilts you I guess. And if you think all that harmony with the land shit, go for it. White people bad, I get it. I also didnt say wholesale slaughter of their resources. I said shit ton of trees. However, if there were more, and became more technologically sound on their own, I believe 100% they would do the same thing without the white man. But lets keep pretending it's just white people that were the horror. They took out a crap ton of forest with just a small amount of people( relatively speaking) and little technology wise. Guaranteed it would have been more otherwise all by themselves.

We'll never know because it never happened. In the meantime, you're dealing in pure speculation.

But they did tear down a shit ton of trees, so logically it makes sense.

Must have been all those log homes and railroads they were building.....

Doesnt matter what they cut them down for, the fact is they did.

[necronomous]

I'm not supporting gunzens statement.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1921261

Interesting read. Took me two coffees to get through it. It kind of comes across like Whitey trying to make himself feel a little better about himself. (and it contradicts itself on several occasions) And the whole canoe thing... really? They cleared entire forests just to make canoes?

Did Native Americans clear land for agriculture? Absolutely.
Did they use fire and bark peeling to do it? Absolutely.
And why? Because they had no metallurgy. When Whitey showed up they were still using tomahawks make with stones.

The Native Americans of that era thought they were "one" with the land. They took what they needed from it and very little else. Most of their "Gods" were integral with nature and the land. The very thought of destroying land for more than they need would never have occurred to them.

The very idea that Native Americans of that time were involved in the wholesale slaughter of their natural resources is simply ridiculous.

If you think that's the only book sourcing this, whatever guilts you I guess. And if you think all that harmony with the land shit, go for it. White people bad, I get it. I also didnt say wholesale slaughter of their resources. I said shit ton of trees. However, if there were more, and became more technologically sound on their own, I believe 100% they would do the same thing without the white man. But lets keep pretending it's just white people that were the horror. They took out a crap ton of forest with just a small amount of people( relatively speaking) and little technology wise. Guaranteed it would have been more otherwise all by themselves.

We'll never know because it never happened. In the meantime, you're dealing in pure speculation.

But they did tear down a shit ton of trees, so logically it makes sense.

Okay. You win.
No matter how badly we have treated them, no matter what atrocities we have committed upon their people... it's all good because they cut down a bunch of trees before white men ever landed in North America.
I can't believe I've been so blind. Thank you for setting me straight on this matter.

Nice strawman. I in no way implied anything other than they cut down a shit ton of trees and probably would have more, with or without the white mans involvement.

[megman]

Interesting read. Took me two coffees to get through it. It kind of comes across like Whitey trying to make himself feel a little better about himself. (and it contradicts itself on several occasions) And the whole canoe thing... really? They cleared entire forests just to make canoes?

Did Native Americans clear land for agriculture? Absolutely.
Did they use fire and bark peeling to do it? Absolutely.
And why? Because they had no metallurgy. When Whitey showed up they were still using tomahawks make with stones.

The Native Americans of that era thought they were "one" with the land. They took what they needed from it and very little else. Most of their "Gods" were integral with nature and the land. The very thought of destroying land for more than they need would never have occurred to them.

The very idea that Native Americans of that time were involved in the wholesale slaughter of their natural resources is simply ridiculous.

If you think that's the only book sourcing this, whatever guilts you I guess. And if you think all that harmony with the land shit, go for it. White people bad, I get it. I also didnt say wholesale slaughter of their resources. I said shit ton of trees. However, if there were more, and became more technologically sound on their own, I believe 100% they would do the same thing without the white man. But lets keep pretending it's just white people that were the horror. They took out a crap ton of forest with just a small amount of people( relatively speaking) and little technology wise. Guaranteed it would have been more otherwise all by themselves.

We'll never know because it never happened. In the meantime, you're dealing in pure speculation.

But they did tear down a shit ton of trees, so logically it makes sense.

Must have been all those log homes and railroads they were building.....

Doesnt matter what they cut them down for, the fact is they did.

How many trees in a shit ton?