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JCW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:57 pm

One part that makes gratitude hard to achieve sometimes is perspective and lack of insight. If you don't know how bad things can be, you dont ever truly appreciate that they're not that way for you. Just my observation as I age and struggle with instilling gratitude in my child's cushy life.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:24 pm So, you live in the US/Canada. At the apex of human civilization. Unlimited job opportunities, tech out the ass, multiple vehicles, TV's in every room, Clean water, Travel anywhere you desire, raise your kids decently, hell the list is almost endless. So, here's my question. Why does it seem everybody is always angry, frustrated, depressed, making life harder than it needs to be? Like getting to the apex causes more problems. Please discuss.

JCW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:57 pm

beagleboy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:49 pm

JCW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:29 pm

A big key to this is gratitude, I think.

There are different types of happiness. Eudaimonic happiness is what you are talking about and the feeling of being blessed. A lot of people pursue hedonistic happiness but it only works for very short periods.

There are free online classes through major universities that go into this sort of thing. Some of the happiest people on earth who also live the longest are nuns and monks. Hedonistic happiness is easier to attain but basically impossible to sustain.

One part that makes gratitude hard to achieve sometimes is perspective and lack of insight. If you don't know how bad things can be, you dont ever truly appreciate that they're not that way for you. Just my observation as I age and struggle with instilling gratitude in my child's cushy life.

Flumper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:50 pm

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:24 pm So, you live in the US/Canada. At the apex of human civilization. Unlimited job opportunities, tech out the ass, multiple vehicles, TV's in every room, Clean water, Travel anywhere you desire, raise your kids decently, hell the list is almost endless. So, here's my question. Why does it seem everybody is always angry, frustrated, depressed, making life harder than it needs to be? Like getting to the apex causes more problems. Please discuss.

there have always been problems and always been people complaining. then someone solves the complaints and gets rich. new complaints, new problems. another invention, another rich person.

pan for gold for years. then someone designs a sleuce box (sp?) one person can now pan the equivalent of 60 men. outdoor shitter. then someone designs indoor plumbing. plowing a field with a mule. here comes the tractor. the list is endless.

the difference is that the further back you go the less the things to complain about because there wasn't that much to work with. now that we have tons of shit to pick from there's tons of things to complain about. A good example would be to look under the hood of a car made in 1960 and under the hood of a car made now. Then you tell me if there are more or less things to complain about.

JCW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:57 pm

beagleboy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:49 pm

JCW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:29 pm

A big key to this is gratitude, I think.

There are different types of happiness. Eudaimonic happiness is what you are talking about and the feeling of being blessed. A lot of people pursue hedonistic happiness but it only works for very short periods.

There are free online classes through major universities that go into this sort of thing. Some of the happiest people on earth who also live the longest are nuns and monks. Hedonistic happiness is easier to attain but basically impossible to sustain.

One part that makes gratitude hard to achieve sometimes is perspective and lack of insight. If you don't know how bad things can be, you dont ever truly appreciate that they're not that way for you. Just my observation as I age and struggle with instilling gratitude in my child's cushy life.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:25 pm Good for you. The understanding of working for something and getting it, or maybe not getting it, is lost on so many people.

JCW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:42 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:25 pm Good for you. The understanding of working for something and getting it, or maybe not getting it, is lost on so many people.

I mean, hes only 10 but for example, he wanted the new Mario Maker 2 game for the Switch. He worked his ass off doing crappy chores without a single complaint to earn it. More than the actual work, his can-do attitude about tackling that days list solidified my decision to get it for him. If I ever felt like he was taking things for granted though, they'd be gone in a heartbeat.

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:45 pm What do I get if I wax your car and clean the interior?

JCW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:50 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:45 pm What do I get if I wax your car and clean the interior?

To smell my ass scent on the seat while you do it?

(Cleaning and vacuuming the car was one of the jobs he did for that game. He also stacked firewood, cleaned out kitchen drawers and fridge and a bunch of other stuff)

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:51 pm

JCW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:50 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:45 pm What do I get if I wax your car and clean the interior?

To smell my ass scent on the seat while you do it?

(Cleaning and vacuuming the car was one of the jobs he did for that game. He also stacked firewood, cleaned out kitchen drawers and fridge and a bunch of other stuff)

No deal

JCW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:50 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:45 pm What do I get if I wax your car and clean the interior?

To smell my ass scent on the seat while you do it?

(Cleaning and vacuuming the car was one of the jobs he did for that game. He also stacked firewood, cleaned out kitchen drawers and fridge and a bunch of other stuff)

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:38 pm Oh goody goody! Here comes another history lesson from our resident Wikipedia history professor.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:15 pm I want to post one more personal opinion/ observation on this subject and then I'll disappear for 24 hours and let others comment based on their experience. Most Social experts see the unraveling of USA culture (drug use, feminism, family units breaking down, etc) on late 60's anti-war movements, liberalism amuck. endless. I contend you can date to one day our present fractured, divisive, hate filled poison that passes for civility these days. November 9th, 1989. The day the Berlin Wall fell and Communism soon after. After almost 60 years of national unity getting through the Great Depression, WWII (400,000 dead) and the almost 50 year Cold War, we won. 1990's economic boom (outperformed the World combined) followed. Other than the 9/11 attacks to unify the country, that lasted for all of 2 years until the Bush idiots decided to invade Iraq. we are a country awash in the seas. I would go a step forward and say we are a Country "Bored" to tears. Any comments?

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:15 pm I want to post one more personal opinion/ observation on this subject and then I'll disappear for 24 hours and let others comment based on their experience. Most Social experts see the unraveling of USA culture (drug use, feminism, family units breaking down, etc) on late 60's anti-war movements, liberalism amuck. endless. I contend you can date to one day our present fractured, divisive, hate filled poison that passes for civility these days. November 9th, 1989. The day the Berlin Wall fell and Communism soon after. After almost 60 years of national unity getting through the Great Depression, WWII (400,000 dead) and the almost 50 year Cold War, we won. 1990's economic boom (outperformed the World combined) followed. Other than the 9/11 attacks to unify the country, that lasted for all of 2 years until the Bush idiots decided to invade Iraq. we are a country awash in the seas. I would go a step forward and say we are a Country "Bored" to tears. Any comments?

Wut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:51 pm

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:15 pm I want to post one more personal opinion/ observation on this subject and then I'll disappear for 24 hours and let others comment based on their experience. Most Social experts see the unraveling of USA culture (drug use, feminism, family units breaking down, etc) on late 60's anti-war movements, liberalism amuck. endless. I contend you can date to one day our present fractured, divisive, hate filled poison that passes for civility these days. November 9th, 1989. The day the Berlin Wall fell and Communism soon after. After almost 60 years of national unity getting through the Great Depression, WWII (400,000 dead) and the almost 50 year Cold War, we won. 1990's economic boom (outperformed the World combined) followed. Other than the 9/11 attacks to unify the country, that lasted for all of 2 years until the Bush idiots decided to invade Iraq. we are a country awash in the seas. I would go a step forward and say we are a Country "Bored" to tears. Any comments?

Yes, blaming feminism is misguided.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:15 pm I want to post one more personal opinion/ observation on this subject and then I'll disappear for 24 hours and let others comment based on their experience. Most Social experts see the unraveling of USA culture (drug use, feminism, family units breaking down, etc) on late 60's anti-war movements, liberalism amuck. endless. I contend you can date to one day our present fractured, divisive, hate filled poison that passes for civility these days. November 9th, 1989. The day the Berlin Wall fell and Communism soon after. After almost 60 years of national unity getting through the Great Depression, WWII (400,000 dead) and the almost 50 year Cold War, we won. 1990's economic boom (outperformed the World combined) followed. Other than the 9/11 attacks to unify the country, that lasted for all of 2 years until the Bush idiots decided to invade Iraq. we are a country awash in the seas. I would go a step forward and say we are a Country "Bored" to tears. Any comments?

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:47 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:38 pm Oh goody goody! Here comes another history lesson from our resident Wikipedia history professor.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:15 pm I want to post one more personal opinion/ observation on this subject and then I'll disappear for 24 hours and let others comment based on their experience. Most Social experts see the unraveling of USA culture (drug use, feminism, family units breaking down, etc) on late 60's anti-war movements, liberalism amuck. endless. I contend you can date to one day our present fractured, divisive, hate filled poison that passes for civility these days. November 9th, 1989. The day the Berlin Wall fell and Communism soon after. After almost 60 years of national unity getting through the Great Depression, WWII (400,000 dead) and the almost 50 year Cold War, we won. 1990's economic boom (outperformed the World combined) followed. Other than the 9/11 attacks to unify the country, that lasted for all of 2 years until the Bush idiots decided to invade Iraq. we are a country awash in the seas. I would go a step forward and say we are a Country "Bored" to tears. Any comments?

CALLED IT !!!!!!

Blast wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:56 am

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:47 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:38 pm Oh goody goody! Here comes another history lesson from our resident Wikipedia history professor.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:15 pm I want to post one more personal opinion/ observation on this subject and then I'll disappear for 24 hours and let others comment based on their experience. Most Social experts see the unraveling of USA culture (drug use, feminism, family units breaking down, etc) on late 60's anti-war movements, liberalism amuck. endless. I contend you can date to one day our present fractured, divisive, hate filled poison that passes for civility these days. November 9th, 1989. The day the Berlin Wall fell and Communism soon after. After almost 60 years of national unity getting through the Great Depression, WWII (400,000 dead) and the almost 50 year Cold War, we won. 1990's economic boom (outperformed the World combined) followed. Other than the 9/11 attacks to unify the country, that lasted for all of 2 years until the Bush idiots decided to invade Iraq. we are a country awash in the seas. I would go a step forward and say we are a Country "Bored" to tears. Any comments?

CALLED IT !!!!!!

He gives a decent opinion and you guys can't admit it?

Blast wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:56 am

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:47 pm

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:38 pm Oh goody goody! Here comes another history lesson from our resident Wikipedia history professor.

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:15 pm I want to post one more personal opinion/ observation on this subject and then I'll disappear for 24 hours and let others comment based on their experience. Most Social experts see the unraveling of USA culture (drug use, feminism, family units breaking down, etc) on late 60's anti-war movements, liberalism amuck. endless. I contend you can date to one day our present fractured, divisive, hate filled poison that passes for civility these days. November 9th, 1989. The day the Berlin Wall fell and Communism soon after. After almost 60 years of national unity getting through the Great Depression, WWII (400,000 dead) and the almost 50 year Cold War, we won. 1990's economic boom (outperformed the World combined) followed. Other than the 9/11 attacks to unify the country, that lasted for all of 2 years until the Bush idiots decided to invade Iraq. we are a country awash in the seas. I would go a step forward and say we are a Country "Bored" to tears. Any comments?

CALLED IT !!!!!!

He gives a decent opinion and you guys can't admit it?