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Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 2:43 am If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 2:43 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2026 3:55 pm Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

Trump's handling of the Strait is almost comical at this point abd definitely defies logic. Yet, we will still have to hear how brilliant his moves are by his sycophants.

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:28 pm

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 2:43 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2026 3:55 pm Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

Trump's handling of the Strait is almost comical at this point abd definitely defies logic. Yet, we will still have to hear how brilliant his moves are by his sycophants.

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

I am not trying to support any of what has been done, but lets clear up the "why's" of what trump did. Iran blocked the strait and then started letting friendly nations move through if they paid a $1 per barrel toll. I think I heard that was around $2 million per tanker. Trump told them they had to open the strait to ALL tankers and ZERO tolls. Iran held firm.

So, Trump blockaded the strait and will not allow anyone that paid a toll to proceed. Anyone that did not pay a toll can proceed. Trump is basically making sure that Iran doesn't collect any tolls. The obvous drawback to this is it puts our military machinery in easy target distance of a drone or mine or IED style attack. And its going to ultimately end up in a showdown with China, russia, japan, etc.

Who wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:36 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:28 pm

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 2:43 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2026 3:55 pm Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

Trump's handling of the Strait is almost comical at this point abd definitely defies logic. Yet, we will still have to hear how brilliant his moves are by his sycophants.

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

I am not trying to support any of what has been done, but lets clear up the "why's" of what trump did. Iran blocked the strait and then started letting friendly nations move through if they paid a $1 per barrel toll. I think I heard that was around $2 million per tanker. Trump told them they had to open the strait to ALL tankers and ZERO tolls. Iran held firm.

So, Trump blockaded the strait and will not allow anyone that paid a toll to proceed. Anyone that did not pay a toll can proceed. Trump is basically making sure that Iran doesn't collect any tolls. The obvous drawback to this is it puts our military machinery in easy target distance of a drone or mine or IED style attack. And its going to ultimately end up in a showdown with China, russia, japan, etc.

So basically World War Three

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:08 pm

Who wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:36 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:28 pm

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 2:43 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2026 3:55 pm Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

Trump's handling of the Strait is almost comical at this point abd definitely defies logic. Yet, we will still have to hear how brilliant his moves are by his sycophants.

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

I am not trying to support any of what has been done, but lets clear up the "why's" of what trump did. Iran blocked the strait and then started letting friendly nations move through if they paid a $1 per barrel toll. I think I heard that was around $2 million per tanker. Trump told them they had to open the strait to ALL tankers and ZERO tolls. Iran held firm.

So, Trump blockaded the strait and will not allow anyone that paid a toll to proceed. Anyone that did not pay a toll can proceed. Trump is basically making sure that Iran doesn't collect any tolls. The obvous drawback to this is it puts our military machinery in easy target distance of a drone or mine or IED style attack. And its going to ultimately end up in a showdown with China, russia, japan, etc.

So basically World War Three

no. but the real harm to iran is insignificant to the harm to the countries needing tht oil.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:49 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:08 pm

Who wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:36 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 7:28 pm

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 2:43 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2026 3:55 pm Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

Trump's handling of the Strait is almost comical at this point abd definitely defies logic. Yet, we will still have to hear how brilliant his moves are by his sycophants.

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?

I am not trying to support any of what has been done, but lets clear up the "why's" of what trump did. Iran blocked the strait and then started letting friendly nations move through if they paid a $1 per barrel toll. I think I heard that was around $2 million per tanker. Trump told them they had to open the strait to ALL tankers and ZERO tolls. Iran held firm.

So, Trump blockaded the strait and will not allow anyone that paid a toll to proceed. Anyone that did not pay a toll can proceed. Trump is basically making sure that Iran doesn't collect any tolls. The obvous drawback to this is it puts our military machinery in easy target distance of a drone or mine or IED style attack. And its going to ultimately end up in a showdown with China, russia, japan, etc.

So basically World War Three

no. but the real harm to iran is insignificant to the harm to the countries needing tht oil.

Not sure of the accuracy of this but I've heard American ports are going gangbusters right now because of this.

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 9:32 pm I am probably way off base here, but i'm not so sure that putting Jared Kushner and his yamaka, at the negotiating table with the Iranians is a good move.

Biker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 10:16 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 9:32 pm I am probably way off base here, but i'm not so sure that putting Jared Kushner and his yamaka, at the negotiating table with the Iranians is a good move.

Seriously.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2026 12:32 pm

Biker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 10:16 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2026 9:32 pm I am probably way off base here, but i'm not so sure that putting Jared Kushner and his yamaka, at the negotiating table with the Iranians is a good move.

Seriously.

I've got quite a few Middle Eastern customers that own businesses and during the course of our conversations they have all said the same thing when the topic came up (employees and hiring): they only hire relatives because in their eyes they are the only people they can trust. Not saying I agree or disagree with this.
I suspect this is also why Trump leans so heavily on Kushner. In Trump's eyes he believes he can trust him to the probable detriment of sending someone more experienced and less problematic.

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2026 1:51 pm Chump fired the experts with knowledge of the region language and history, and hired his son in law instead because chump is incompetent and unfit for governance. There's really no more to it than that. Y'all spent decades building up expertise in dealing with this region, chump is just too stupid to understand that

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2026 5:00 am

Cassandros wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2026 3:11 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2026 1:04 am

Cassandros wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2026 12:51 am Stopped negotiations you say?

US, Iran say they have agreed to a two-week ceasefire

Iran’s Supreme National Security Council says it has accepted a two-week ceasefire in the war. Its statement said it would negotiate with the United States in Islamabad beginning Friday.

https://apnews.com/live/iran-war-israel ... 04-07-2026

Yes, timeline appears to be they offer 10 point plan trump rejects, then trump sends deranged surrender or die tweets and they call his bluff, then trump tacos again and offers a ceasefire through Pakistan based around the same 10 point plan. Now you just have to negotiate how high they can set the tolls on their new territory.

It always amuses me how you present conjecture as fact...

I personally see a cease fire as a win for everyone. But, you do you, homie.

A ceasefire is great news.

We are back to where we were 7 weeks ago, before we attacked Iran in the first place. Negotiating w/ the Iranians. Only they have the Strait as a card that they weren't playing before.

Of course Trump is calling this a victory.

That's not conjecture. It's a fact.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2026 2:29 am The blockade is working (nothing in or out of Iranian ports) and now there are reports that since Iran felt it was a good idea to shoot missiles at neighboring countries, which it turns out they don't really like, those countries have decided to open up the Iranian bank accounts they do business with. This will allow the possible forfeiture or halting of any payments to the Iranian regime cutting off their financial legs. This on top of the belief that the Iranian economy was already on its last legs.

I suppose this leads to the question of how long and how much will the hardline Islamo-fascist regime let their people suffer?

U.S. naval blockade on Iran will trigger a currency devaluation spiral and hyperinflation, potentially ending the war more quickly, analyst says
https://fortune.com/2026/04/13/us-naval ... l-revenue/

But Iran is winning.

Animal wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2026 12:26 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2026 2:29 am The blockade is working (nothing in or out of Iranian ports) and now there are reports that since Iran felt it was a good idea to shoot missiles at neighboring countries, which it turns out they don't really like, those countries have decided to open up the Iranian bank accounts they do business with. This will allow the possible forfeiture or halting of any payments to the Iranian regime cutting off their financial legs. This on top of the belief that the Iranian economy was already on its last legs.

I suppose this leads to the question of how long and how much will the hardline Islamo-fascist regime let their people suffer?

U.S. naval blockade on Iran will trigger a currency devaluation spiral and hyperinflation, potentially ending the war more quickly, analyst says
https://fortune.com/2026/04/13/us-naval ... l-revenue/

But Iran is winning.

You have to remember that the people running Iran don't give 2 cents about the people or how much they suffer. All they want is to come out of this with control of the country. Anything that leaves them in control is considered a win to them.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2026 12:55 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2026 12:26 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2026 2:29 am The blockade is working (nothing in or out of Iranian ports) and now there are reports that since Iran felt it was a good idea to shoot missiles at neighboring countries, which it turns out they don't really like, those countries have decided to open up the Iranian bank accounts they do business with. This will allow the possible forfeiture or halting of any payments to the Iranian regime cutting off their financial legs. This on top of the belief that the Iranian economy was already on its last legs.

I suppose this leads to the question of how long and how much will the hardline Islamo-fascist regime let their people suffer?

U.S. naval blockade on Iran will trigger a currency devaluation spiral and hyperinflation, potentially ending the war more quickly, analyst says
https://fortune.com/2026/04/13/us-naval ... l-revenue/

But Iran is winning.

You have to remember that the people running Iran don't give 2 cents about the people or how much they suffer. All they want is to come out of this with control of the country. Anything that leaves them in control is considered a win to them.

Of course, which is all the more reason why the world and the Iranian people will be better off without them. This scenario ultimately, in theory, leads to the Iranian people revolting and "(hopefully) doing our work for us.

Animal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2026 2:03 pm if this works out like its showing signs now, then our greatest allies in all of this have been the mid east countries, not NATO. Churchill would be very disappointed.

Animal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2026 2:03 pm if this works out like its showing signs now, then our greatest allies in all of this have been the mid east countries, not NATO. Churchill would be very disappointed.