Regretting chump yet?

[Animal]

a tie.

[Burn1dwn]

a tie.

Explain how you think the US won or Iran lost? Besides blowing shit up and killing old men.

[Animal]

a tie.

Explain how you think the US won or Iran lost? Besides blowing shit up and killing old men.

i'm obviously not going to convince you of anything. if you want to think this was a tie, go right ahead. You might be surprised to learn that most people think that letting them know that using the Strait instead of trying to develop nuclear weapons is an acceptable trade off. Now we just all have to see how we will manage to recover from the devastation of having to pay an extra $20 a tank for the past couple of weeks. Thank god for the ceasefire.

[BombaySapphire]

It doesnt matter who won or lost, just be happy Trump TACO'd

[AnalHamster]

Obviously Murica won because the goal all along was to leave the uranium where it was and give Iran control over the strait. Anyone saying different is just a goddamn commie.

[Burn1dwn]

a tie.

Explain how you think the US won or Iran lost? Besides blowing shit up and killing old men.

i'm obviously not going to convince you of anything. if you want to think this was a tie, go right ahead. You might be surprised to learn that most people think that letting them know that using the Strait instead of trying to develop nuclear weapons is an acceptable trade off. Now we just all have to see how we will manage to recover from the devastation of having to pay an extra $20 a tank for the past couple of weeks. Thank god for the ceasefire.

"Letting them" use the Strait? Iran flexed their control of the Strait after we destroyed most of their Navy. We aren't "letting them" do anything. They are just doing it.

Like I already pointed out, Iran agreed to move their 60% uranium to a 3rd country before we attacked. The dispute was over the length of the future enrichment pause or them accepting the US doing their enrichment for them.

So we started a war and added a new condition (control of the Strait) to the negotiations that were already taking place.

We took a ceasfire to reopen a Strait that was wide open before we attacked. Iran lost some old kooks and too many civilians along w/ their outdated military and other government/civilians targets.

We spent money ($45 billion), moved weapons from other hot spots, had a dip in our economy and now might have to pay more for gas and other goods because of a potential Iranian tariff on shipping through the Strait to pay for the destruction we caused.

It's not just a higher gas bill. Seems like a stalemate to me.

[Animal]

a tie.

Explain how you think the US won or Iran lost? Besides blowing shit up and killing old men.

i'm obviously not going to convince you of anything. if you want to think this was a tie, go right ahead. You might be surprised to learn that most people think that letting them know that using the Strait instead of trying to develop nuclear weapons is an acceptable trade off. Now we just all have to see how we will manage to recover from the devastation of having to pay an extra $20 a tank for the past couple of weeks. Thank god for the ceasefire.

"Letting them" use the Strait? Iran flexed their control of the Strait after we destroyed most of their Navy. We aren't "letting them" do anything. They are just doing it.

Like I already pointed out, Iran agreed to move their 60% uranium to a 3rd country before we attacked. The dispute was over the length of the future enrichment pause or them accepting the US doing their enrichment for them.

So we started a war and added a new condition (control of the Strait) to the negotiations that were already taking place.

We took a ceasfire to reopen a Strait that was wide open before we attacked. Iran lost some old kooks and too many civilians along w/ their outdated military and other government/civilians targets.

We spent money ($45 billion), moved weapons from other hot spots, had a dip in our economy and now might have to pay more for gas and other goods because of a potential Iranian tariff on shipping through the Strait to pay for the destruction we caused.

It's not just a higher gas bill. Seems like a stalemate to me.

like i said. i'm not going to convince you of anything. you feel like iran came out ahead. i get it. if someone believes that iran agreed to move all of their enriched uranium out of their country, then they start off from a delusional basis.

[AnalHamster]

Also not really looking much like a ceasefire at present. Pakistan said it included Lebanon, Israel ignores the chump tweet and says no, Iran says nuh straits stay shut until it does. Looking like this ceasefire was just chumpy tacoing from his latest war crime deadline and announcing agreements that didn't exist to try and save face.

[Burn1dwn]

like i said. i'm not going to convince you of anything. you feel like iran came out ahead. i get it. if someone believes that iran agreed to move all of their enriched uranium out of their country, then they start off from a delusional basis.

You do know that Iran previously moved enriched Uranium out of their country under the treaty that Trump tore up, right?

[Burn1dwn]

Also not really looking much like a ceasefire at present. Pakistan said it included Lebanon, Israel ignores the chump tweet and says no, Iran says nuh straits stay shut until it does. Looking like this ceasefire was just chumpy tacoing from his latest war crime deadline and announcing agreements that didn't exist to try and save face.

Trump forgot to ask the Israelis what they wanted before folding. Amatuer move.

[CHEEZY17]

If there's one thing the past 30 years have taught us about Iran it's that they are always 100% honest and upfront about their nuclear ambitions.

[Burn1dwn]

If there's one thing the past 30 years have taught us about Iran it's that they are always 100% honest and upfront about their nuclear ambitions.

They have been more honest than Bibi's assessments the past 30 years.

You know that Trump's own administration certified that Iran was in compliance when he tore up the JCPOA?

He said the deal had to be tore up because it expired in 15 years and because it didn't include ballistic missiles and curbing Iranian proxies. I.E. Israel told him to do it.

He didn't do it because the Iranians were pursuing nukes.

I'm not a fan of Obama but the JCPOA was one of the good things he actually did Could it have been expanded on? Sure, but tearing up the agreement completely was 5 steps back after 2 steps forward.

At what point will you hold Trump responsible for the actions his unilateral moves make?

[AnalHamster]

If there's one thing the past 30 years have taught us about Iran it's that they are always 100% honest and upfront about their nuclear ambitions.

They followed the deal, the US (chump) tore it up. Then Israel attacked them. Can't really blame Iran in this one. They need a bomb, you don't keep attacking North Korea.

[Animal]

like i said. i'm not going to convince you of anything. you feel like iran came out ahead. i get it. if someone believes that iran agreed to move all of their enriched uranium out of their country, then they start off from a delusional basis.

You do know that Iran previously moved enriched Uranium out of their country under the treaty that Trump tore up, right?

I am assuming that this comment is your way of crawfishing from your previous nutty remark that the Iranians had just recently agreed to move all of their enriched uranium out of Iran.

[Burn1dwn]

like i said. i'm not going to convince you of anything. you feel like iran came out ahead. i get it. if someone believes that iran agreed to move all of their enriched uranium out of their country, then they start off from a delusional basis.

You do know that Iran previously moved enriched Uranium out of their country under the treaty that Trump tore up, right?

I am assuming that this comment is your way of crawfishing from your previous nutty remark that the Iranians had just recently agreed to move all of their enriched uranium out of Iran.

I guess it's nutty if you don't believe the mediators from the negotiations in February.

https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... ockpiling/

Since they already did it under the JCPOA, I figured Iran would consider doing it again if a deal was made.

[Animal]

like i said. i'm not going to convince you of anything. you feel like iran came out ahead. i get it. if someone believes that iran agreed to move all of their enriched uranium out of their country, then they start off from a delusional basis.

You do know that Iran previously moved enriched Uranium out of their country under the treaty that Trump tore up, right?

I am assuming that this comment is your way of crawfishing from your previous nutty remark that the Iranians had just recently agreed to move all of their enriched uranium out of Iran.

I guess it's nutty if you don't believe the mediators from the negotiations in February.

https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... ockpiling/

Since they already did it under the JCPOA, I figured Iran would consider doing it again if a deal was made.

[AnalHamster]

Seems like chumpy didn't quite grasp the Pakistan mediated ceasefire teens, aka everything Iran asked for, bit of a disconnect between whether or not Israel gets to keep attacking Lebanon. Might be a tad longer before ships paying tolls in yuan can pass the strait with Iranian permission. Chumpy needs to go ask Netanyahu for permission before he tries to pretend he made a deal.

[dot]

The fact that illegal aliens are here illegally is not "clutter".

Bob still can't identify the violent crimes that were committed, and still won't acknowledge the hypocrisy of supporting the convicted criminal pedorapist traitor in opposition to supposed black and white lines he'd have us believe he adheres to. But hey, gas food and goods are cheaper huh? Oh wait...

[Burn1dwn]

[CHEEZY17]

The fact that illegal aliens are here illegally is not "clutter".

Bob still can't identify the violent crimes that were committed, and still won't acknowledge the hypocrisy of supporting the convicted criminal pedorapist traitor in opposition to supposed black and white lines he'd have us believe he adheres to. But hey, gas food and goods are cheaper huh? Oh wait...

Dodgin' Dot still doesn't understand that a violent crime doesn't need to be committed for an illegal alien to be an illegal alien and thus subject to arrest by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

[CHEEZY17]

My retirement just hit an all time high. Hope you all bought on that dip.

[stonedmegman]

In what has to be a surprise to no-one, trump chickened out.

Looks like Iran told him to go fuck himself and stopped even indirect negotiations after his latest desperate deranged tweets, so it's now just full taco and Iran's ten point plan had gone from 'not good enough' to 'workable'.

TACO

[AnalHamster]

No deal, poor ol' chumpy is flailing. Can't really blame vance given that he works for an incompetent clown who took his knees out going in. Chump desperately declared Iran's ten points are a workable start point at the last minute because he had to taco on his latest ultimatum, then he tries to 'negotiate' from the position they aren't remotely workable after all. Just embarrassing for y'all.

[AnalHamster]

Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

[Burn1dwn]

Chumps latest plan - blockade the straits as well

Trump's handling of the Strait is almost comical at this point abd definitely defies logic. Yet, we will still have to hear how brilliant his moves are by his sycophants.

If blocking it and preventing Iran from shipping what they want through it was a good move, why did he spend so much time threatening Iran to "re-open" it in the first place?