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At what point is the bullshit spewing from this guy going to be enough for everyone to just tell him to GTFO?



This guy's marbles have all fallen out, I think.
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Animal wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:40 pm At what point is the bullshit spewing from this guy going to be enough for everyone to just tell him to GTFO?



This guy's marbles have all fallen out, I think.
Where have you been for the last 8 years? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:51 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:40 pm At what point is the bullshit spewing from this guy going to be enough for everyone to just tell him to GTFO?



This guy's marbles have all fallen out, I think.
Where have you been for the last 8 years? :lol: :lol: :lol:
i will admit that 8 years ago i was curious about seeing what a business man would do in the office, as opposed to a career politician. and i knew at the time that he was a egotistical and a bit nutty, but so was Perot and he was the same kind of interesting.

But, he had his chance and he let too much out of the bag. He doesn't do well with handlers that tell him what he can say and can't say so there are no filters. and he's just not smart enough to operate in front of cameras and reporters without filters.
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Animal wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:40 pm At what point is the bullshit spewing from this guy going to be enough for everyone to just tell him to GTFO?



This guy's marbles have all fallen out, I think.
BS. Stop slopping up the media's propaganda and get your fucking facts straight. As President, he strongly reminded all our NATO members (especially Germany) that by treaty and a condition of their protection for the last 75 years under the American nuclear umbrella, they were required to spend a % of their budgets for their own self defense. Had already warned that the US was done being the World's policemen and paying for it.
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CentralTexasCrude wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:57 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:40 pm At what point is the bullshit spewing from this guy going to be enough for everyone to just tell him to GTFO?



This guy's marbles have all fallen out, I think.
BS. Stop slopping up the media's propaganda and get your fucking facts straight. As President, he strongly reminded all our NATO members (especially Germany) that by treaty and a condition of their protection for the last 75 years under the American nuclear umbrella, they were required to spend a % of their budgets for their own self defense. Had already warned that the US was done being the World's policemen and paying for it.
its a video of the words coming out of his mouth, stupid. its not propaganda.
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The folks that buy his fake Patriotism and spew his rhetoric are going to cost the GOP the White House, US Senate and the House of Reps.

I shutter to think what the MAGA crowd does then. Start a Civil War?
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hawkfan8812 wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:47 pm The folks that buy his fake Patriotism and spew his rhetoric are going to cost the GOP the White House, US Senate and the House of Reps.

I shutter to think what the MAGA crowd does then. Start a Civil War?
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CentralTexasCrude wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:57 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:40 pm At what point is the bullshit spewing from this guy going to be enough for everyone to just tell him to GTFO?



This guy's marbles have all fallen out, I think.
BS. Stop slopping up the media's propaganda and get your fucking facts straight. As President, he strongly reminded all our NATO members (especially Germany) that by treaty and a condition of their protection for the last 75 years under the American nuclear umbrella, they were required to spend a % of their budgets for their own self defense. Had already warned that the US was done being the World's policemen and paying for it.
And that justifies Trump telling Russia they should attack NATO countries.

It must still be Sunday somewhere.
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Animal wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:58 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:57 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:40 pm At what point is the bullshit spewing from this guy going to be enough for everyone to just tell him to GTFO?



This guy's marbles have all fallen out, I think.
BS. Stop slopping up the media's propaganda and get your fucking facts straight. As President, he strongly reminded all our NATO members (especially Germany) that by treaty and a condition of their protection for the last 75 years under the American nuclear umbrella, they were required to spend a % of their budgets for their own self defense. Had already warned that the US was done being the World's policemen and paying for it.
its a video of the words coming out of his mouth, stupid. its not propaganda.
I see the concept of "context" eludes you. Imagine my shock.
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stonedmegman wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:18 am
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:57 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:40 pm At what point is the bullshit spewing from this guy going to be enough for everyone to just tell him to GTFO?



This guy's marbles have all fallen out, I think.
BS. Stop slopping up the media's propaganda and get your fucking facts straight. As President, he strongly reminded all our NATO members (especially Germany) that by treaty and a condition of their protection for the last 75 years under the American nuclear umbrella, they were required to spend a % of their budgets for their own self defense. Had already warned that the US was done being the World's policemen and paying for it.
And that justifies Trump telling Russia they should attack NATO countries.

It must still be Sunday somewhere.
Imagine that. We protect Canada under our nuclear umbrella for the past almost 80 years essentially for free and what thanks do we get? Same old bitching and moaning.
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CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:33 am
stonedmegman wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:18 am
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:57 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:40 pm At what point is the bullshit spewing from this guy going to be enough for everyone to just tell him to GTFO?



This guy's marbles have all fallen out, I think.
BS. Stop slopping up the media's propaganda and get your fucking facts straight. As President, he strongly reminded all our NATO members (especially Germany) that by treaty and a condition of their protection for the last 75 years under the American nuclear umbrella, they were required to spend a % of their budgets for their own self defense. Had already warned that the US was done being the World's policemen and paying for it.
And that justifies Trump telling Russia they should attack NATO countries.

It must still be Sunday somewhere.
Imagine that. We protect Canada under our nuclear umbrella for the past almost 80 years essentially for free and what thanks do we get? Same old bitching and moaning.
For free???

Get your fucking facts straight.

"In June 2022, Defence Minister Anita Anand announced Canada's $38.6 billion plan to modernize North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) over the next two decades. This is the largest investment in Canada's NORAD capabilities in a generation."
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-nat ... lines.html
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The comment was pure bluster which is pretty much Trumps schtick.
The point was that he was again trying to highlight Europe's defense spending obligations that they are required to meet. Did he do it in a reckless way? Yes.
And before anyone tries to say I'm apologizing for him or excusing him I'll say it very clear: It was a very bad way to say something. It still had a valid point behind it though: Europe must also prioritize its defenses.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:24 am The comment was pure bluster which is pretty much Trumps schtick.
The point was that he was again trying to highlight Europe's defense spending obligations that they are required to meet. Did he do it in a reckless way? Yes.
And before anyone tries to say I'm apologizing for him or excusing him I'll say it very clear: It was a very bad way to say something. It still had a valid point behind it though: Europe must also prioritize its defenses.
And that is my point.
1. His blustering ways are getting out of hand.
2. There are tactful ways to get a point across that great leaders should possess. He does not.
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The irony of the guy making up a story to posture for the marks in the audience telling other countries to "pay their bills" when he has filed for bankruptcy multiple times and is known for not paying his bills is staggering.
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dot wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:21 pm The irony of the guy making up a story to posture for the marks in the audience telling other countries to "pay their bills" when he has filed for bankruptcy multiple times and is known for not paying his bills is staggering.
that's actually a good point.
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Animal wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:34 pm
dot wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:21 pm The irony of the guy making up a story to posture for the marks in the audience telling other countries to "pay their bills" when he has filed for bankruptcy multiple times and is known for not paying his bills is staggering.
that's actually a good point.
No it’s not, it’s idiotic. Nations don’t operate like businesses, although if they did we likely wouldn’t be in as much trouble as we are now
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Biker wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:11 pm No it’s not, it’s idiotic. Nations don’t operate like businesses, although if they did we likely wouldn’t be in as much trouble as we are now
NATO countries also don't "pay bills" like the rubes in his crowds are being led to believe, it's a matter of spending a percentage of their GDP, but don't let facts get in the way of showing that the criminal buffoon talks a big game and doesn't practice what he preaches to his sheep.
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dot wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:26 am
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:11 pm No it’s not, it’s idiotic. Nations don’t operate like businesses, although if they did we likely wouldn’t be in as much trouble as we are now
NATO countries also don't "pay bills" like the rubes in his crowds are being led to believe, it's a matter of spending a percentage of their GDP, but don't let facts get in the way of showing that the criminal buffoon talks a big game and doesn't practice what he preaches to his sheep.
Yes, its a percentage of their GDP which they agreed they would meet. Have all of them fulfilled their agreement? Lets not let facts get in the way...so...have they?
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:25 am
dot wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:26 am
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:11 pm No it’s not, it’s idiotic. Nations don’t operate like businesses, although if they did we likely wouldn’t be in as much trouble as we are now
NATO countries also don't "pay bills" like the rubes in his crowds are being led to believe, it's a matter of spending a percentage of their GDP, but don't let facts get in the way of showing that the criminal buffoon talks a big game and doesn't practice what he preaches to his sheep.
Yes, its a percentage of their GDP which they agreed they would meet. Have all of them fulfilled their agreement? Lets not let facts get in the way...so...have they?
when you ask him a question, that means you have moved a goal post.
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hawkfan8812 wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:47 pm The folks that buy his fake Patriotism and spew his rhetoric are going to cost the GOP the White House, US Senate and the House of Reps.

I shutter to think what the MAGA crowd does then. Start a Civil War?
Dear lord I hope so. We're half past purge o'clock and these slugs are burning a hole in my pocket.
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Geist wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:11 pm
hawkfan8812 wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:47 pm The folks that buy his fake Patriotism and spew his rhetoric are going to cost the GOP the White House, US Senate and the House of Reps.

I shutter to think what the MAGA crowd does then. Start a Civil War?
Dear lord I hope so. We're half past purge o'clock and these slugs are burning a hole in my pocket.
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hawkfan8812 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:15 pm
Geist wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:11 pm
hawkfan8812 wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:47 pm The folks that buy his fake Patriotism and spew his rhetoric are going to cost the GOP the White House, US Senate and the House of Reps.

I shutter to think what the MAGA crowd does then. Start a Civil War?
Dear lord I hope so. We're half past purge o'clock and these slugs are burning a hole in my pocket.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:25 am Yes, its a percentage of their GDP which they agreed they would meet. Have all of them fulfilled their agreement? Lets not let facts get in the way...so...have they?
More facts: "The 2% defence investment guideline." "The commitment is a guideline, not a requirement, that has been in place for nearly two decades."
Facts hacks choose to ignore: the blowhard doesn't pay his own bills and has filed for bankruptcy multiple times, rubes and hacks cheer along for a criminal buffoon chronically delinquent in his own payments.
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dot wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:55 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:25 am Yes, its a percentage of their GDP which they agreed they would meet. Have all of them fulfilled their agreement? Lets not let facts get in the way...so...have they?
More facts: "The 2% defence investment guideline." "The commitment is a guideline, not a requirement, that has been in place for nearly two decades."
Facts hacks choose to ignore: the blowhard doesn't pay his own bills and has filed for bankruptcy multiple times, rubes and hacks cheer along for a criminal buffoon chronically delinquent in his own payments.
Since we are talking about Facts. Trump has NEVER one time filed for personal bankruptcy. He has, a total of 4 times, filed for business bankruptcies for various businesses that he owns. He has owned hundreds of businesses over the years. Only a die hard hack could call that "chronic".
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