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don't anyone tell Biker that the polio vaccine is 4 shots. And the mumps shot is 2 shots. let's go!!!
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Your lack of understanding on how the childhood vaccines that require 2 or 4 shots to 'complete the series' verse the mRNA 'boosters for life' are different is both amusing and depressing.
If the IgG4 results we've been seeing is holds true, that's terrifying...
...For the mRNA booster club at least. (And apparently they are too daft to even realize it). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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This is also a bullshit lie. One of the main "selling points" for the mRNA shot was, as Rochelle Walensky falsely and arrogantly claimed, "Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials, but it's also in real-world data."Animal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:29 pm you have to be a special kind of stupid to want to be right about something you were wrong about this badly. No one.....No one thought the vaccine would prevent transmission anymore than anyone thinks that if you get a flu vaccine you can't spread the flu if you still get it. And literally everyone knows that if you get a flu vaccine there is a chance you might still get the flu.
"Don't carry the virus" means "can't infect others." A lie that was used to justified vaccine passports and mandates.
Don't sugar coat the tyranny, and don't give liars a pass. They ruined lives for no reason, and the bruised egos of people like you will let them get away with it.
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bruised egos? you sound like a girl turned away from a rush party.Cassandros wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:06 amThis is also a bullshit lie. One of the main "selling points" for the mRNA shot was, as Rochelle Walensky falsely and arrogantly claimed, "Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials, but it's also in real-world data."Animal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:29 pm you have to be a special kind of stupid to want to be right about something you were wrong about this badly. No one.....No one thought the vaccine would prevent transmission anymore than anyone thinks that if you get a flu vaccine you can't spread the flu if you still get it. And literally everyone knows that if you get a flu vaccine there is a chance you might still get the flu.
"Don't carry the virus" means "can't infect others." A lie that was used to justified vaccine passports and mandates.
Don't sugar coat the tyranny, and don't give liars a pass. They ruined lives for no reason, and the bruised egos of people like you will let them get away with it.
literally no one ever said that a vaccine would guarantee 100% that you would not get the virus or that you wouldn't spread the virus. If you read that, then you either read it wrong or you read it from someone as equally dumb as you are. Even the most optimistic reports from the get go put the effectiveness of even the best vaccines in the trials at around 90%. And that was only against the single strains they were designed to combat.
if you are going to pretend to be an expert, at least do it with honest facts that aren't skewed to soothe your sensitive self confidence.
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Your mental gymnastics routine is well rehearsed, but...Animal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:45 ambruised egos? you sound like a girl turned away from a rush party.Cassandros wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:06 amThis is also a bullshit lie. One of the main "selling points" for the mRNA shot was, as Rochelle Walensky falsely and arrogantly claimed, "Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials, but it's also in real-world data."Animal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:29 pm you have to be a special kind of stupid to want to be right about something you were wrong about this badly. No one.....No one thought the vaccine would prevent transmission anymore than anyone thinks that if you get a flu vaccine you can't spread the flu if you still get it. And literally everyone knows that if you get a flu vaccine there is a chance you might still get the flu.
"Don't carry the virus" means "can't infect others." A lie that was used to justified vaccine passports and mandates.
Don't sugar coat the tyranny, and don't give liars a pass. They ruined lives for no reason, and the bruised egos of people like you will let them get away with it.
literally no one ever said that a vaccine would guarantee 100% that you would not get the virus or that you wouldn't spread the virus. If you read that, then you either read it wrong or you read it from someone as equally dumb as you are. Even the most optimistic reports from the get go put the effectiveness of even the best vaccines in the trials at around 90%. And that was only against the single strains they were designed to combat. That's the worst part of it all, really...
if you are going to pretend to be an expert, at least do it with honest facts that aren't skewed to soothe your sensitive self confidence.
They claimed of 95% efficacy as justification to demand compliance if you wanted to work, dine, even go to the movies.
And places held those systems long after the OG strain had gained gone away.
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get the fuck out with that bullshit. no one demanded anything to work or dine or go to movies. at least not where I lived. None of my employees were demanded to do jack shit. I was never turned away from a diner or checked for a vaccine or carded for anything anywhere I went. i am sure you can dig up some extreme example to prop up your stupidity, but i'm talking about real world.
the most i had to endure was marks on the floor for social distancing in checkout lines and sneeze guards at checkout counters.
the most i had to endure was marks on the floor for social distancing in checkout lines and sneeze guards at checkout counters.
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The military required vaccinations. I know some airlines did as well.Animal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:49 pm get the fuck out with that bullshit. no one demanded anything to work or dine or go to movies. at least not where I lived. None of my employees were demanded to do jack shit. I was never turned away from a diner or checked for a vaccine or carded for anything anywhere I went. i am sure you can dig up some extreme example to prop up your stupidity, but i'm talking about real world.
the most i had to endure was marks on the floor for social distancing in checkout lines and sneeze guards at checkout counters.
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like i said, i am sure you can dig up examples that did, but the fact is that you could live your life without it if that was more important to you.B-Tender wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:52 pmThe military required vaccinations. I know some airlines did as well.Animal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:49 pm get the fuck out with that bullshit. no one demanded anything to work or dine or go to movies. at least not where I lived. None of my employees were demanded to do jack shit. I was never turned away from a diner or checked for a vaccine or carded for anything anywhere I went. i am sure you can dig up some extreme example to prop up your stupidity, but i'm talking about real world.
the most i had to endure was marks on the floor for social distancing in checkout lines and sneeze guards at checkout counters.
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Your willful ignorance to reality is depressing; but expected. Seems like everyone in the "booster club" wants to re-write history.Animal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:49 pm get the fuck out with that bullshit. no one demanded anything to work or dine or go to movies. at least not where I lived. None of my employees were demanded to do jack shit. I was never turned away from a diner or checked for a vaccine or carded for anything anywhere I went. i am sure you can dig up some extreme example to prop up your stupidity, but i'm talking about real world.
the most i had to endure was marks on the floor for social distancing in checkout lines and sneeze guards at checkout counters.
"In September 2021, President Joe Biden announced that the federal government would take steps to mandate COVID-19 vaccination for certain entities under the authority of the federal government or federal agencies"; he tried to enforce it through OSHA, but that got rejected. When the lawsuits and dust settled, "a mandate on health care workers in institutions receiving Medicare and Medicaid funds was upheld. "
Plenty of private businesses followed Joe's lead. As did a few liberal cities like NY; who had "In August 2021, New York City implemented a vaccine passport program, dubbed the “Key to NYC,” which required indoor dining, fitness, recreation and entertainment venues in NYC to verify that staff and guests ages 5 and older are vaccinated against COVID-19 as a condition of entry."
Just because your little area didn't force you, does NOT mean it didn't happen. So, please, stop being a useful idiot.
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my god. i can't imagine how miserable a life must be for someone so small minded that they have to scour little examples to support their desperate attempts to be right about something.Cassandros wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:59 pmYour willful ignorance to reality is depressing; but expected. Seems like everyone in the "booster club" wants to re-write history.Animal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:49 pm get the fuck out with that bullshit. no one demanded anything to work or dine or go to movies. at least not where I lived. None of my employees were demanded to do jack shit. I was never turned away from a diner or checked for a vaccine or carded for anything anywhere I went. i am sure you can dig up some extreme example to prop up your stupidity, but i'm talking about real world.
the most i had to endure was marks on the floor for social distancing in checkout lines and sneeze guards at checkout counters.
"In September 2021, President Joe Biden announced that the federal government would take steps to mandate COVID-19 vaccination for certain entities under the authority of the federal government or federal agencies"; he tried to enforce it through OSHA, but that got rejected. When the lawsuits and dust settled, "a mandate on health care workers in institutions receiving Medicare and Medicaid funds was upheld. "
Plenty of private businesses followed Joe's lead. As did a few liberal cities like NY; who had "In August 2021, New York City implemented a vaccine passport program, dubbed the “Key to NYC,” which required indoor dining, fitness, recreation and entertainment venues in NYC to verify that staff and guests ages 5 and older are vaccinated against COVID-19 as a condition of entry."
Just because your little area didn't force you, does NOT mean it didn't happen. So, please, stop being a useful idiot.
As I said before, and as you have proved with your desperation, you may find random examples of mandates, but by and large, in the country as a whole, you will not find that to be the case. And even in those rare cases, like you dug up, there are so many loop holes for the unwilling that they were loosely enforced.
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New York's vaccine passport affected over 8 million people alone. About half the states in the US ultimately followed suit and imposed various levels of the same schemes, as did a myriad of private sector jobs and hundreds of Universities. And let's not forget, the OG mandate lasted several months before the courts finally struck it down --> and that affected roughly 80 million people.Animal wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:10 pmmy god. i can't imagine how miserable a life must be for someone so small minded that they have to scour little examples to support their desperate attempts to be right about something.Cassandros wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:59 pmYour willful ignorance to reality is depressing; but expected. Seems like everyone in the "booster club" wants to re-write history.Animal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:49 pm get the fuck out with that bullshit. no one demanded anything to work or dine or go to movies. at least not where I lived. None of my employees were demanded to do jack shit. I was never turned away from a diner or checked for a vaccine or carded for anything anywhere I went. i am sure you can dig up some extreme example to prop up your stupidity, but i'm talking about real world.
the most i had to endure was marks on the floor for social distancing in checkout lines and sneeze guards at checkout counters.
"In September 2021, President Joe Biden announced that the federal government would take steps to mandate COVID-19 vaccination for certain entities under the authority of the federal government or federal agencies"; he tried to enforce it through OSHA, but that got rejected. When the lawsuits and dust settled, "a mandate on health care workers in institutions receiving Medicare and Medicaid funds was upheld. "
Plenty of private businesses followed Joe's lead. As did a few liberal cities like NY; who had "In August 2021, New York City implemented a vaccine passport program, dubbed the “Key to NYC,” which required indoor dining, fitness, recreation and entertainment venues in NYC to verify that staff and guests ages 5 and older are vaccinated against COVID-19 as a condition of entry."
Just because your little area didn't force you, does NOT mean it didn't happen. So, please, stop being a useful idiot.
As I said before, and as you have proved with your desperation, you may find random examples of mandates, but by and large, in the country as a whole, you will not find that to be the case. And even in those rare cases, like you dug up, there are so many loop holes for the unwilling that they were loosely enforced.
So much for "little examples", eh?
Buddy, you sound as disgusting as one of those loyalist defending 1930's Germany right now, 'You are so small minded. The final solution "only" killed ~6 million, out of how many Jews worldwide. Pfffft, virtually no one was affected!'
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And many of those people, especially at United Airlines, never got their positions back. Didnt those dunces understand that the vaccine was free??B-Tender wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:52 pmThe military required vaccinations. I know some airlines did as well.Animal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:49 pm get the fuck out with that bullshit. no one demanded anything to work or dine or go to movies. at least not where I lived. None of my employees were demanded to do jack shit. I was never turned away from a diner or checked for a vaccine or carded for anything anywhere I went. i am sure you can dig up some extreme example to prop up your stupidity, but i'm talking about real world.
the most i had to endure was marks on the floor for social distancing in checkout lines and sneeze guards at checkout counters.
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Calm down Karen. You must live in some kind of clown world reality. We all survived and even the ones that had to wear a mask to ride a bus are okay now. Jesus, what a whiney cunt.Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:54 pm
New York's vaccine passport affected over 8 million people alone. About half the states in the US ultimately followed suit and imposed various levels of the same schemes, as did a myriad of private sector jobs and hundreds of Universities. And let's not forget, the OG mandate lasted several months before the courts finally struck it down --> and that affected roughly 80 million people.
So much for "little examples", eh?
Buddy, you sound as disgusting as one of those loyalist defending 1930's Germany right now, 'You are so small minded. The final solution "only" killed ~6 million, out of how many Jews worldwide. Pfffft, virtually no one was affected!'
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Truth hurts, I know.Animal wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:13 amCalm down Karen. You must live in some kind of clown world reality. We all survived and even the ones that had to wear a mask to ride a bus are okay now. Jesus, what a whiney cunt.Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:54 pm
New York's vaccine passport affected over 8 million people alone. About half the states in the US ultimately followed suit and imposed various levels of the same schemes, as did a myriad of private sector jobs and hundreds of Universities. And let's not forget, the OG mandate lasted several months before the courts finally struck it down --> and that affected roughly 80 million people.
So much for "little examples", eh?
Buddy, you sound as disgusting as one of those loyalist defending 1930's Germany right now, 'You are so small minded. The final solution "only" killed ~6 million, out of how many Jews worldwide. Pfffft, virtually no one was affected!'
You know what else?
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Oh wait. a cafe in Melborne Australia made people get vaccinated? You are certainly starting to make your point.Cassandros wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:46 amTruth hurts, I know.Animal wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:13 amCalm down Karen. You must live in some kind of clown world reality. We all survived and even the ones that had to wear a mask to ride a bus are okay now. Jesus, what a whiney cunt.Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:54 pm
New York's vaccine passport affected over 8 million people alone. About half the states in the US ultimately followed suit and imposed various levels of the same schemes, as did a myriad of private sector jobs and hundreds of Universities. And let's not forget, the OG mandate lasted several months before the courts finally struck it down --> and that affected roughly 80 million people.
So much for "little examples", eh?
Buddy, you sound as disgusting as one of those loyalist defending 1930's Germany right now, 'You are so small minded. The final solution "only" killed ~6 million, out of how many Jews worldwide. Pfffft, virtually no one was affected!'
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That's what you took from that? Really?
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No, they didn’t make people get vaccinated. They excluded them from service like the sign says in the bottom line.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:11 pmOh wait. a cafe in Melborne Australia made people get vaccinated? You are certainly starting to make your point.Cassandros wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:46 amTruth hurts, I know.Animal wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:13 amCalm down Karen. You must live in some kind of clown world reality. We all survived and even the ones that had to wear a mask to ride a bus are okay now. Jesus, what a whiney cunt.Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:54 pm
New York's vaccine passport affected over 8 million people alone. About half the states in the US ultimately followed suit and imposed various levels of the same schemes, as did a myriad of private sector jobs and hundreds of Universities. And let's not forget, the OG mandate lasted several months before the courts finally struck it down --> and that affected roughly 80 million people.
So much for "little examples", eh?
Buddy, you sound as disgusting as one of those loyalist defending 1930's Germany right now, 'You are so small minded. The final solution "only" killed ~6 million, out of how many Jews worldwide. Pfffft, virtually no one was affected!'
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*per government mandateAntknot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:38 pmNo, they didn’t make people get vaccinated. They excluded them from service like the sign says in the bottom line.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:11 pmOh wait. a cafe in Melborne Australia made people get vaccinated? You are certainly starting to make your point.Cassandros wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:46 amTruth hurts, I know.Animal wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:13 amCalm down Karen. You must live in some kind of clown world reality. We all survived and even the ones that had to wear a mask to ride a bus are okay now. Jesus, what a whiney cunt.Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:54 pm
New York's vaccine passport affected over 8 million people alone. About half the states in the US ultimately followed suit and imposed various levels of the same schemes, as did a myriad of private sector jobs and hundreds of Universities. And let's not forget, the OG mandate lasted several months before the courts finally struck it down --> and that affected roughly 80 million people.
So much for "little examples", eh?
Buddy, you sound as disgusting as one of those loyalist defending 1930's Germany right now, 'You are so small minded. The final solution "only" killed ~6 million, out of how many Jews worldwide. Pfffft, virtually no one was affected!'
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Actually, Australia (read:their government) was WAY more heavy-handed about "coercing" people to be vaccinated than the US.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:11 pmOh wait. a cafe in Melborne Australia made people get vaccinated? You are certainly starting to make your point.Cassandros wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:46 amTruth hurts, I know.Animal wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:13 amCalm down Karen. You must live in some kind of clown world reality. We all survived and even the ones that had to wear a mask to ride a bus are okay now. Jesus, what a whiney cunt.Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:54 pm
New York's vaccine passport affected over 8 million people alone. About half the states in the US ultimately followed suit and imposed various levels of the same schemes, as did a myriad of private sector jobs and hundreds of Universities. And let's not forget, the OG mandate lasted several months before the courts finally struck it down --> and that affected roughly 80 million people.
So much for "little examples", eh?
Buddy, you sound as disgusting as one of those loyalist defending 1930's Germany right now, 'You are so small minded. The final solution "only" killed ~6 million, out of how many Jews worldwide. Pfffft, virtually no one was affected!'
You know what else?
This apology is acknowledging that the majority of people in Australia were sheep who blindly agreed to punish non-vaccinated people --> all under the (false) pretense that they were "doing the right thing" and it was necessary to "stop the spread, and protect grandma."
Needless to say, you aren't mature enough to make the same acknowledgement on how easily it was to scare you into compliance and manipulate you into hating people who didn't march lockstep with the official narrative. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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i don't live in Australia, Karen. So I don't spend much time worrying about what sheep or non sheep like activities they and their government partake in.Cassandros wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:42 amActually, Australia (read:their government) was WAY more heavy-handed about "coercing" people to be vaccinated than the US.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:11 pmOh wait. a cafe in Melborne Australia made people get vaccinated? You are certainly starting to make your point.Cassandros wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:46 amTruth hurts, I know.Animal wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:13 amCalm down Karen. You must live in some kind of clown world reality. We all survived and even the ones that had to wear a mask to ride a bus are okay now. Jesus, what a whiney cunt.Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:54 pm
New York's vaccine passport affected over 8 million people alone. About half the states in the US ultimately followed suit and imposed various levels of the same schemes, as did a myriad of private sector jobs and hundreds of Universities. And let's not forget, the OG mandate lasted several months before the courts finally struck it down --> and that affected roughly 80 million people.
So much for "little examples", eh?
Buddy, you sound as disgusting as one of those loyalist defending 1930's Germany right now, 'You are so small minded. The final solution "only" killed ~6 million, out of how many Jews worldwide. Pfffft, virtually no one was affected!'
You know what else?
This apology is acknowledging that the majority of people in Australia were sheep who blindly agreed to punish non-vaccinated people --> all under the (false) pretense that they were "doing the right thing" and it was necessary to "stop the spread, and protect grandma."
Needless to say, you aren't mature enough to make the same acknowledgement on how easily it was to scare you into compliance and manipulate you into hating people who didn't march lockstep with the official narrative. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Face it, you are a dumb fuck and you have a dumb fuck theory that your government tried to control you and force you to be vaccinated. And yet that never happened. Even though in your pea brain you have recreated those memories they never actually happened.
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Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:54 pm
New York's vaccine passport affected over 8 million people alone. About half the states in the US ultimately followed suit and imposed various levels of the same schemes, as did a myriad of private sector jobs and hundreds of Universities. And let's not forget, the OG mandate lasted several months before the courts finally struck it down --> and that affected roughly 80 million people.
So much for "little examples", eh?
Buddy, you sound as disgusting as one of those loyalist defending 1930's Germany right now, 'You are so small minded. The final solution "only" killed ~6 million, out of how many Jews worldwide. Pfffft, virtually no one was affected!'
Theory?Animal wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:18 pm i don't live in Australia, Karen. So I don't spend much time worrying about what sheep or non sheep like activities they and their government partake in.
Face it, you are a dumb fuck and you have a dumb fuck theory that your government tried to control you and force you to be vaccinated. And yet that never happened. Even though in your pea brain you have recreated those memories they never actually happened.
Kiddo, I laid out the reality of what happened (albeit, truncated; formatted again in bold above).
Every point is easily verifiable --> yet you choose to remain willfully ignorant and childishly obtuse. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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are you back to new york now? you sure have to skip around a lot when you are grasping at little bits of evidence to support your laughing stock theory.
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