Eating even a moderate amount of red or processed meat is linked with an increased risk of colorectal (bowel) cancer, according to a new study published Wednesday.
People who ate 76 grams of red and processed meat per day -- that's in line with current guidelines and roughly the same as a quarter-pound beef burger -- had a 20% higher chance of developing colorectal cancer compared to others, who ate about 21 grams a day, the equivalent to one slice of ham, according to the research.
The study also found that processed meat, like sausages or bacon, posed a bigger risk than red meat, with the risk of colorectal cancer rising 20% with every 25 grams of processed meat (roughly equivalent to a thin slice of bacon) people ate per day, and by 19% with every 50 grams of red meat (a thick slice of roast beef or the edible bit of a lamb chop).
I'm put into a high-risk category of colorectal cancer from my mom's side of the family, those who didn't die from smoking too much croaked from damaged guts. But I love a nice slice or ten of nice crispy thick-cut bacon, though I try to limit it to one day a week because of the cholesterol, since my mom's family also had issues with that. My "normal" cholesterol level sits at 240, which it did even when I ate a strictly vegan diet.
If you can't be a good example, you can still serve as a horrible warning.
“All mushrooms are edible. Some even more than once!”
これを グーグル 翻訳に登録してくれておめでとう、バカ。
BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:12 pm
Eat all the bacon you like and just get a yearly colonoscopy!
except I get a colonoscopy every other year. So far they haven't found anything "interesting"...
My favorite bacon is the thick-cut pepper cured bacon from Lucky's market. Half a pound put into a cold 400d oven for 20 minutes, and it's just perfection! Put a couple over-medium eggs and a plain waffle or a fresh-made bisquit on a plate with it, and it's The Breakfast of the Gods.
If you can't be a good example, you can still serve as a horrible warning.
“All mushrooms are edible. Some even more than once!”
これを グーグル 翻訳に登録してくれておめでとう、バカ。
BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:12 pm
Eat all the bacon you like and just get a yearly colonoscopy!
except I get a colonoscopy every other year. So far they haven't found anything "interesting"...
My favorite bacon is the thick-cut pepper cured bacon from Lucky's market. Half a pound put into a cold 400d oven for 20 minutes, and it's just perfection! Put a couple over-medium eggs and a plain waffle or a fresh-made bisquit on a plate with it, and it's The Breakfast of the Gods.
JackRabbit_Slim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:11 pm
I just don't get why they can't sell unprocessed bacon?
Isn't that what pork belly is?
Basically. You have to do some kind of processing on pork belly (or some other parts of the pig) to make bacon, but there is both cured and uncured bacon. Personally, I find uncured bacon gross tasting, but hey, that's just me. I can't find the infamous Alton Brown vid from Good Eats where he processes a pork belly into bacon, but this is a pretty good substitute. It's not hard and you don't have to get fancy. But it winds up being mostly a "see wut I did" sort of thing.
If you can't be a good example, you can still serve as a horrible warning.
“All mushrooms are edible. Some even more than once!”
これを グーグル 翻訳に登録してくれておめでとう、バカ。
So for years and years people get this nominal amount of colorectal cancer. Whatever that number is, will remain the same, but now people will suddenly be aware and be like, holy shit bacon is evil. Seriously, meat is no more dangerous now, than it has ever been. Finding a study that links it to cancer does not make it any more dangerous. Some people will get cancer from it. Most wont. What do your genes say? That hasn't changed and it wont. This shit is fucking stupid.
necronomous wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:37 pm
So for years and years people get this nominal amount of colorectal cancer. Whatever that number is, will remain the same, but now people will suddenly be aware and be like, holy shit bacon is evil. Seriously, meat is no more dangerous now, than it has ever been. Finding a study that links it to cancer does not make it any more dangerous. Some people will get cancer from it. Most wont. What do your genes say? That hasn't changed and it wont. This shit is fucking stupid.
Yup, too many other variables. Would bet money it's more of a correlative factor with other poor dietary habits.
JackRabbit_Slim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:11 pm
I just don't get why they can't sell unprocessed bacon?
Isn't that what pork belly is?
Basically. You have to do some kind of processing on pork belly (or some other parts of the pig) to make bacon, but there is both cured and uncured bacon. Personally, I find uncured bacon gross tasting, but hey, that's just me. I can't find the infamous Alton Brown vid from Good Eats where he processes a pork belly into bacon, but this is a pretty good substitute. It's not hard and you don't have to get fancy. But it winds up being mostly a "see wut I did" sort of thing.
necronomous wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:37 pm
So for years and years people get this nominal amount of colorectal cancer. Whatever that number is, will remain the same, but now people will suddenly be aware and be like, holy shit bacon is evil. Seriously, meat is no more dangerous now, than it has ever been. Finding a study that links it to cancer does not make it any more dangerous. Some people will get cancer from it. Most wont. What do your genes say? That hasn't changed and it wont. This shit is fucking stupid.
Just because you don’t like the result of a study doesn’t make it stupid. And maybe you should look beyond your statement that cancer rates have remained the same. Colorectal cancer rates in young people are rising rapidly, and researchers suspect that processed meats are a significant factor.
necronomous wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:37 pm
So for years and years people get this nominal amount of colorectal cancer. Whatever that number is, will remain the same, but now people will suddenly be aware and be like, holy shit bacon is evil. Seriously, meat is no more dangerous now, than it has ever been. Finding a study that links it to cancer does not make it any more dangerous. Some people will get cancer from it. Most wont. What do your genes say? That hasn't changed and it wont. This shit is fucking stupid.
Just because you don’t like the result of a study doesn’t make it stupid. And maybe you should look beyond your statement that cancer rates have remained the same. Colorectal cancer rates in young people are rising rapidly, and researchers suspect that processed meats are a significant factor.
Its not that I do or don't like the results you presumptive twit. I'm saying there is more to it than just processed meat. I am in no way saying its not a cause for some people. Especially now with newer generations. Just look at the peanut and food allergy rise. But that doesn't mean that for the most part meat is bad. That's fucking ridiculous and REGARDLESS of what the study indicates, people, especially vegetarians are going to claim that it is.
necronomous wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:37 pm
So for years and years people get this nominal amount of colorectal cancer. Whatever that number is, will remain the same, but now people will suddenly be aware and be like, holy shit bacon is evil. Seriously, meat is no more dangerous now, than it has ever been. Finding a study that links it to cancer does not make it any more dangerous. Some people will get cancer from it. Most wont. What do your genes say? That hasn't changed and it wont. This shit is fucking stupid.
Just because you don’t like the result of a study doesn’t make it stupid. And maybe you should look beyond your statement that cancer rates have remained the same. Colorectal cancer rates in young people are rising rapidly, and researchers suspect that processed meats are a significant factor.
Its not that I do or don't like the results you presumptive twit. I'm saying there is more to it than just processed meat. I am in no way saying its not a cause for some people. Especially now with newer generations. Just look at the peanut and food allergy rise. But that doesn't mean that for the most part meat is bad. That's fucking ridiculous and REGARDLESS of what the study indicates, people, especially vegetarians are going to claim that it is.
So it comes down to the fact that vegetarians hurt your feelings.
What a snowflake
necronomous wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:37 pm
So for years and years people get this nominal amount of colorectal cancer. Whatever that number is, will remain the same, but now people will suddenly be aware and be like, holy shit bacon is evil. Seriously, meat is no more dangerous now, than it has ever been. Finding a study that links it to cancer does not make it any more dangerous. Some people will get cancer from it. Most wont. What do your genes say? That hasn't changed and it wont. This shit is fucking stupid.
Just because you don’t like the result of a study doesn’t make it stupid. And maybe you should look beyond your statement that cancer rates have remained the same. Colorectal cancer rates in young people are rising rapidly, and researchers suspect that processed meats are a significant factor.
Its not that I do or don't like the results you presumptive twit. I'm saying there is more to it than just processed meat. I am in no way saying its not a cause for some people. Especially now with newer generations. Just look at the peanut and food allergy rise. But that doesn't mean that for the most part meat is bad. That's fucking ridiculous and REGARDLESS of what the study indicates, people, especially vegetarians are going to claim that it is.
So it comes down to the fact that vegetarians hurt your feelings.
What a snowflake
necronomous wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:37 pm
So for years and years people get this nominal amount of colorectal cancer. Whatever that number is, will remain the same, but now people will suddenly be aware and be like, holy shit bacon is evil. Seriously, meat is no more dangerous now, than it has ever been. Finding a study that links it to cancer does not make it any more dangerous. Some people will get cancer from it. Most wont. What do your genes say? That hasn't changed and it wont. This shit is fucking stupid.
Just because you don’t like the result of a study doesn’t make it stupid. And maybe you should look beyond your statement that cancer rates have remained the same. Colorectal cancer rates in young people are rising rapidly, and researchers suspect that processed meats are a significant factor.
Its not that I do or don't like the results you presumptive twit. I'm saying there is more to it than just processed meat. I am in no way saying its not a cause for some people. Especially now with newer generations. Just look at the peanut and food allergy rise. But that doesn't mean that for the most part meat is bad. That's fucking ridiculous and REGARDLESS of what the study indicates, people, especially vegetarians are going to claim that it is.
So it comes down to the fact that vegetarians hurt your feelings.
What a snowflake
What? Fuck you're stupid.
You’re taking a position against a study that you can’t possibly understand because you don’t like the result. And you admit that it bothers you what vegetarians will say.
It is quite apparent you don’t understand the concept of risk factors and/or their relation to cancer.
JackRabbit_Slim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:11 pm
I just don't get why they can't sell unprocessed bacon?
Isn't that what pork belly is?
Basically. You have to do some kind of processing on pork belly (or some other parts of the pig) to make bacon, but there is both cured and uncured bacon. Personally, I find uncured bacon gross tasting, but hey, that's just me. I can't find the infamous Alton Brown vid from Good Eats where he processes a pork belly into bacon, but this is a pretty good substitute. It's not hard and you don't have to get fancy. But it winds up being mostly a "see wut I did" sort of thing.
I'm the opposite. I'd rather have uncured bacon (stores here sell it as market cut bacon). That sticky junk left in the bottom of the pan after frying cured bacon is sugar. Market cut does not leave that junk in the pan, just grease, and does not stick to your iron pan.
JackRabbit_Slim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:11 pm
I just don't get why they can't sell unprocessed bacon?
Isn't that what pork belly is?
Basically. You have to do some kind of processing on pork belly (or some other parts of the pig) to make bacon, but there is both cured and uncured bacon. Personally, I find uncured bacon gross tasting, but hey, that's just me. I can't find the infamous Alton Brown vid from Good Eats where he processes a pork belly into bacon, but this is a pretty good substitute. It's not hard and you don't have to get fancy. But it winds up being mostly a "see wut I did" sort of thing.
I'm the opposite. I'd rather have uncured bacon (stores here sell it as market cut bacon). That sticky junk left in the bottom of the pan after frying cured bacon is sugar. Market cut does not leave that junk in the pan, just grease, and does not stick to your iron pan.
Not all cured bacon has sugar in it. By definition, if it's not cured (and optionally smoked), it's not bacon.
necronomous wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:37 pm
So for years and years people get this nominal amount of colorectal cancer. Whatever that number is, will remain the same, but now people will suddenly be aware and be like, holy shit bacon is evil. Seriously, meat is no more dangerous now, than it has ever been. Finding a study that links it to cancer does not make it any more dangerous. Some people will get cancer from it. Most wont. What do your genes say? That hasn't changed and it wont. This shit is fucking stupid.
Just because you don’t like the result of a study doesn’t make it stupid. And maybe you should look beyond your statement that cancer rates have remained the same. Colorectal cancer rates in young people are rising rapidly, and researchers suspect that processed meats are a significant factor.
Its not that I do or don't like the results you presumptive twit. I'm saying there is more to it than just processed meat. I am in no way saying its not a cause for some people. Especially now with newer generations. Just look at the peanut and food allergy rise. But that doesn't mean that for the most part meat is bad. That's fucking ridiculous and REGARDLESS of what the study indicates, people, especially vegetarians are going to claim that it is.
So it comes down to the fact that vegetarians hurt your feelings.
What a snowflake
What? Fuck you're stupid.
You’re taking a position against a study that you can’t possibly understand because you don’t like the result. And you admit that it bothers you what vegetarians will say.
It is quite apparent you don’t understand the concept of risk factors and/or their relation to cancer.
JackRabbit_Slim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:11 pm
I just don't get why they can't sell unprocessed bacon?
Isn't that what pork belly is?
Basically. You have to do some kind of processing on pork belly (or some other parts of the pig) to make bacon, but there is both cured and uncured bacon. Personally, I find uncured bacon gross tasting, but hey, that's just me. I can't find the infamous Alton Brown vid from Good Eats where he processes a pork belly into bacon, but this is a pretty good substitute. It's not hard and you don't have to get fancy. But it winds up being mostly a "see wut I did" sort of thing.
I'm the opposite. I'd rather have uncured bacon (stores here sell it as market cut bacon). That sticky junk left in the bottom of the pan after frying cured bacon is sugar. Market cut does not leave that junk in the pan, just grease, and does not stick to your iron pan.
Not all cured bacon has sugar in it. By definition, if it's not cured (and optionally smoked), it's not bacon.
Well call it sliced pork belly then. The meat dept. cuts and packages it in-store, and I'm sure they are not smoking or curing anything in the back. It lacks the darker hue of smoked bellies, as well as the nitrites, artificial flavorings, and sugars.
JackRabbit_Slim wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:11 pm
I just don't get why they can't sell unprocessed bacon?
Isn't that what pork belly is?
Basically. You have to do some kind of processing on pork belly (or some other parts of the pig) to make bacon, but there is both cured and uncured bacon. Personally, I find uncured bacon gross tasting, but hey, that's just me. I can't find the infamous Alton Brown vid from Good Eats where he processes a pork belly into bacon, but this is a pretty good substitute. It's not hard and you don't have to get fancy. But it winds up being mostly a "see wut I did" sort of thing.
I'm the opposite. I'd rather have uncured bacon (stores here sell it as market cut bacon). That sticky junk left in the bottom of the pan after frying cured bacon is sugar. Market cut does not leave that junk in the pan, just grease, and does not stick to your iron pan.
Not all cured bacon has sugar in it. By definition, if it's not cured (and optionally smoked), it's not bacon.
Well call it sliced pork belly then. The meat dept. cuts and packages it in-store, and I'm sure they are not smoking or curing anything in the back. It lacks the darker hue of smoked bellies, as well as the nitrites, artificial flavorings, and sugars.
Agreed, we'll call it sliced pork bellies. I make my own bacon, and the main cure base is kosher salt and "pink salt". I use one teaspoon of pink salt, which contains 6.25% sodium nitrite by volume, for 5# of belly, and 1/4 cup kosher salt. That's it. Some batches add pepper and garlic, some brown sugar and/or natural maple syrup, and yet others have various spicy peppers. The smoke is natural, not liquid smoke. Most store bought bacons contain, as you noted, sugars, artificial preservatives and flavors, and a bunch of water. Make yourself some in the manner I do, and you'll never buy pre-packaged again (colloquially speaking). You can use a celery cure if the thought of the sodium nitrite bothers you. It's still nitrites, but naturally occurring.
except I get a colonoscopy every other year. So far they haven't found anything "interesting"... 
